The Natural Law fallacy and Homosexuality

by JanH 62 Replies latest jw friends

  • JanH
    JanH

    There is a fallacy of logic that is so common that few people realize that it is, indeed, a fallacy of logic: The Fallacy by appeal to nature.

    One argument against homosexuality goes something like this:

    The natural use of the reproductive organs is obviously to make children. Using these organs in a way that cannot produce children is unnatural and thus ethically wrong.

    There are many lines of argument against this argument: 1) pointing to species like the Bonobo, where homosexuality is common, and what occurs in nature without human interference is by definition "natural". 2) Many "uses" of various limbs is obviously contrary to "natural" use, like using feet for gas pedals in cars, or fingers for typing. Also, that line of argument would force you to argue against birth control and masturbation and even, by extension, use of medicine against the very natural diseases.

    The real fallacy of the argument, however, is one originally pointed out by the philosopher Immanuel Kant in his theories of ethics: You cannot go from an is to an ought. The way something is cannot be a logically sound argument for saying how it ought to be. It is a confusion of descriptive and normative.

    The reason we accept this fallacy so easily is that we're brought up to think that "natural = good". How many products aren't advertised with a reference to their "natural ingredients"? This romantic, Rosseauan view of nature is not very consistent with reality. Nature's "natural" inclination is to try to kill you with disease, an unhospitable climate and starvation. In our modern society the struggle against nature -- what keeps us alive -- is so mechanized and effective that we take it for granted, and we receive romantic nature photographs through the television. Poisons are just as likely to be natural as chemical or artifical products. If we think through these issues, we will realize that politicians, environmentalists and marketers keep misusing this fallacy and misunderstanding.

    The flip-side of the anti-gay fallacious argument above is to say that because homosexuality exists in nature, then it is ethically good. That does not follow. Murder, incest and cannibalism exist in nature, but should not be used as a basis for human morality. Another common pro-gay argument is the below:

    Evidence suggests that "gayness" may be caused by a gene. That would mean people are born gay. Therefor, it is ethically good (or, at least, acceptable) to be gay.

    Considering that both gays and Christians alike seem to accept this argument, it may surpirse many that it is simply a variant of the above fallacy. Ethically, it makes no difference whether genes influence our sexual orientation or not. Even geneticists like Richard Lewontin and evolutionary theoriests like Richard Dawkins argue strongly against such gene-oriented argumentation, especially in ethics (a side note: while it's virtually certain that genes influence sexual orientation, it is very unlikely to exist a so-called "gay gene.").

    Of course, it could be asked: if we had "a gene for" being violent, would that justify violent behaviour? The problem is, of course, that we obviously have genes for being violent. Human beings, especially males, are naturally violent. We must unlearn violence, as every parent will know. And the rules of society are made up to control our urges to be violent.

    It could also be made a good case for inclination towards pedophilia being genetically influenced. A trend in human evolution has been that adult individuals look more like young individuals in humans than it did in our ancestors, and than it does in our closest relatives. So when men consider a woman pretty, she typically has 'childish' facial traits (term "baby face" comes to mind). But will this in any way justify those who have a sex drive "run amok" and directed towards children to live out such traits? Obviously not!

    The "argument from nature" is fallacious when it used against homosexuality, but it is no less so when used as an argument the other way.

    As an endnote, I have to point out that gays have no "burden of justification" to argue that homosexuality is OK. Those who argue that homosexuality is unethical have the burden of proof; an obligation to provide rationally sound arguments to demonstrate it is ethically wrong.

    See http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#natural for more on the "The Natural Law fallacy / Appeal to Nature"

    - Jan
    --
    Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The DevilĀ“s Dictionary, 1911]

  • Julie
    Julie

    Hmmm, nice presentation of arguments Jan. So what is it exactly you are telling us? Is this some sort of coming-out-of-the-closet thing for you? ;-)

    Julie, who wishes everyone could just accept other's sexuality and get on with the business of enjoying life--and sex for that matter

  • RedhorseWoman
    RedhorseWoman

    Julie, my impression exactly. What is your point, Jan?

  • SanFranciscoJim
    SanFranciscoJim

    I hear a heterosexual man who is secure enough in his own sexuality that he can deal with such issues in a calm, rational manner.
    Besides, he's Norwegian!

  • emyrose
    emyrose

    Janh, terrific attempt at explaining the unproven ethical argument
    against homosexuality to a "christian" like Logical(ilogical). But aren't all ethics or moral values a matter of preferences rather than logical conclusions? Thus, we could never condemn homosexuality
    with logical arguments.

    Emyrose

  • Skeptic
    Skeptic

    Jan,

    Excellent points. I still remember (and thank you) for private emails correcting me about my use of this fallacy.

    Emyrose,

    >But aren't all ethics or moral values a matter of preferences rather than logical conclusions?

    Not always. Pedophilia causes great harm to children, so logically we can conclude that pedophilia is unethical and immoral. The same can be said about incest, genocide, etc.

    Some moral values such as condemning fornication may have made sense in the past; it prevented single women from having to raise a child. However, today with birth control, suitable protection, and women's rights, it makes little sense to completely condemn fornication today. I am not saying everyone should fornicate, just that a blanket condemnation does not make sense.

    Adultery is another "sin" that logically cannot be made a sin under all circumstances.

    >Thus, we could never condemn homosexuality with logical arguments.

    True. I have yet to see a good argument against homosexuality.

    Richard

  • think41self
    think41self

    Jan,

    I enjoyed your post. Coming out of the mind control of the borg, accepting homosexuality as just another choice people have, was the last and hardest lesson for me to learn. I appreciate your using the examples you did, because I've seen those same arguments used before, by both sides. Of course, you presented it in a very logical, unemotional order.

    Julie, I agree with you! Can't we all just get along and accept other humans? Anyway, just my thoughts. Glad to be free to:

    think41self

  • Seeker
    Seeker

    Nice essay, Jan. I also found the appeal to only do "natural" things in sex to be an odd JW teaching. They condemn oral sex, in part, because it's an "unnatural" use of the sexual organs. Yet I know many elders who had to counsel young married men who had come to them because of having marital problems. Often the issue was one of sex, and the elders had to counsel the young men on the importance of foreplay in sex. Now, if oral sex is wrong, but foreplay is not only accepted but actually encouraged, where's the consistency? Without getting too graphic, how is a man expected to engage in foreplay with his wife (without involving oral sex)? Obviously the use of his fingers comes into play.

    So now we have the totally inconsistent JW beliefs that the use of a man's fingers on his wife's sexual organ is encouraged, but the use of his tongue is forbidden! One is "natural", the other is "unnatural" to them, although on what grounds I cannot imagine. Neither one is using the sexual organs in they way they "obviously" fit, yet one "unnatural" variation is good and one "unnatural" variation is bad.

    Thus it is when an organization makes man-made rules.

  • waiting
    waiting

    Hey Jan,

    As an endnote, I have to point out that gays have no "burden of justification" to argue that homosexuality is OK. Those who argue that homosexuality is unethical have the burden of proof; an obligation to provide rationally sound arguments to demonstrate it is ethically wrong. - JanH

    Fine endnote. It takes a lot of "widening out" or just plain tolerance to other ideas and ways when leaving the WTBTS.

    Hmmm, nice presentation of arguments Jan. So what is it exactly you are telling us? Is this some sort of coming-out-of-the-closet thing for you? ;-)- Julie

    Logical was put down for being homophobic the other day - now JanH is teased because he's addressing the situation in a calm, positive way. Curiously, I've found that people who are uncomfortable with the idea of homosexuality make many jokes about it - usually at another person's expense.

    Thanks, Jan.

    waiting

  • LDH
    LDH

    Seeker,

    I liked your post. Good one, mate! Yet more rules for families made up by old men with no families.

    Sheeeesh.

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