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by Sugar Shane 116 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

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  Fisherman

  there is an ethical responsibility not to withhold information that could help "Caesar' prevent further crimes.

  Wrong!!! take a course on ethics."You are not reading" (to quote Marvin Shilmer.)

  It is not your business or the business of Caesar to impose morality upon the church.

  Read this again: Pedos enjoy 1st Amendment rights and so does the church. If you do not like it, do not be angry at the 69 year old man who is marrying a young boy under the age of 16. Be angry with the SC and the constitution. Do not bomb abortion clinics either because you do not believe that abortion is ethical; it is the law.
  
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  Fisherman

  continue to defend the abusers

  What abusers have I continued to defend ?

  Your immorality wreaks on these pages

  What immorality do you accuse me of?

  Fisherman the despicable disgusting JW apologist

  How do my posts on this thread that explain how church confidentiality is a right rooted in the first amendment enjoyed by all religions not just JW make me a despicable and disgusting JW apologist?
  
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  Fisherman

  Criminals "Hide Behind the Law" all the time..

  It does not matter or have any affect on the legislation. Each case must be applied to the law.

  WatchTower is better at it than most..

  That is rhetoric.

  Outlaw, you are posting conclusions. I was hoping that you would post reasons so that others could see the reasons behind your conclusions and form their own opinions.
  
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  OUTLAW

  Outlaw, you are posting conclusions.

  I was hoping that you would post reasons so that others could see the reasons behind your conclusions and form their own opinions.....Fisherman

  I`m Posting Facts..
  

  1)..Watchtower Advertises its "OWN" Real Estate Company and Real Estate Sales Team..

  2)..WatchTower Protects JW Pedophiles and uses JW Elders to do it..

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  People "ARE" forming Their "Own Opinions" about those Facts..

  You Don`t Like Those Opinions..

  They`re not "WatchTower Approved Opinions"..

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  ..............I LOVE YOU WATCHTOWER!!..
  
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  Fisherman

  If a young JW girl or boy (8 years old) come to the elders about a rape, why would you doubt them?

  Why even have a committee of elders to determine if a rape took place.

  Besides having your opinion about hypothetical situations if and when they happen and whether or not you believe that abortion is murder, you do not have the authority to tell the church or Caesar what to do. But what you can do is to report crimes that you know about to the authorities.
  

  Their are a lot of single moms in the organization with children, and they trust the brothers

  with their life.

  That sounds like a lazy excuse to have the church baby sit for their children. Church elders are not legally responsible to provide physical protection for children of congregants. If you choose trust everyone in the church with the pin code to your bank account or if you choose to trust everyone in your church with the keys to your house and if you choose to trust everyone in the church with your car and if you choose bring a young man to your house and trust him to sleep in same room with your virgin daughter because you trust him because he is a brother, and you choose to trust anyone with your kids, you are a fool. and then you want to sue the elders or the watchtower,
  
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  Fisherman

  Outlaw, if you want me to respond to your posts. I would like to hear your reasons and feelings on the issue. Or if you post something you assert is a fact, give reasons or examples why you feel it is a fact or show that it is a fact. We had a great dialogue the other day not about facts but about our viewpoints on a topic. My challenge to you is:explain your views.
  
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  OUTLAW

  I would like to hear your reasons and feelings on the issue......Fisherman

  That`s not true..
  

  You ignore anything you don`t like,you want people to agree with you..

  I don`t have time for Zealots of any kind..

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  Fisherman

  Clarification: When I said despicable, I meant the crime not the person.
  
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  Fisherman

  Outlaw, I enjoy very much your posts but I enjoyed even more our dialogue the other day.

  WE will talk on a less controvesial topic.
  
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  nelim

  Wrong!!! take a course on ethics."You are not reading" (to quote Marvin Shilmer.)

  It is not your business or the business of Caesar to impose morality upon the church.

  Why do you respond to "ethical responsibility" by using arguments from the legal system? Ethics are separate, and that's why jwfacts explicitly mentions them separately ("ethical and in some places, legal responsibility" to report). You may argue the government cannot force the church to do something, but ethics goes beyond legal and is about "how should we (any person) act?" Answer: help prevent further abuse where possible by reporting abusers to the police.