Sanchy - "If Satan is the one directing Christendom, wouldn't it be weird that he's guiding them towards proving the Bible correct? Shouldn't Satan be doing the opposite?"
I am glad to have found the true religion
by A Believer 201 Replies latest jw friends
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Vidiot
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A Believer
Christendom has free will so it doesn't stop them from finding the truth.
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Steel
Explain to me what the old and new covenant are?
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Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu
A believer. Christendom has free will so it doesn't stop them from finding the truth.
Very true! We have a free will. However, as a Witness of Jehovah. Your free will will end up being the will of the Governing Body.
you know, I was just as you. You said in some earlier comment that you did not study the Bible so much.
neither did I. I was a Catholic, zero Bible knowledge. The witnesses do indeed seem to have all the answers, when you have no prior Bible knowledge! It is very important to study the Bible first. Independently from any religion or organisation.
Have you already studied the topic of our mediator?
who is your mediator?
is it Jesus?
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A Believer
Jesus is the mediator. He is the one who helped man and God come to agreement. Yesu did you know he was created?
22 Jehovah produced me as the beginning of his way,+The earliest of his achievements of long ago.+23 From ancient times* I was installed,+From the start, from times earlier than the earth.+24 When there were no deep waters,+ I was brought forth,*When there were no springs overflowing with water.25 Before the mountains were set in place,Before the hills, I was brought forth,26 When he had not yet made the earth and its fieldsOr the first clods of earth’s soil.27 When he prepared the heavens,+ I was there;When he marked out the horizon* on the surface of the waters,+28 When he established* the clouds above,When he founded the fountains of the deep,29 When he set a decree for the seaThat its waters should not pass beyond his order,+When he established* the foundations of the earth,30 Then I was beside him as a master worker.+I was the one he was especially fond of+ day by day;I rejoiced before him all the time;+
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Giles Gray
I've found the true religion...
No... I've found the true religion...
You're wrong... I've found the true religion...
No... you're wrong... I've found the 'real' true religion...
I've found the true religion... and so has my wife...
I'm Spartacus
No... I'm Spartacus...
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punkofnice
A Believer. Mate, please don't take the easy way out and bung links on here, it really isn't helping us or you.
Come up with your own answers based on the Bible and tell us why the JWs are not a crazy cult. Links and copy paste are not answers, they are simply taking the easy way out without you having to think critically.
PS. How did you get on confessing to the elders?
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Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu
A Believer Jesus is the mediator. He is the one who helped man and God come to agreement. Yesu did you know he was created?
It is good to read that you believe Jesus Christ is our mediator. That's indeed what the Bible teaches. Yes I know what you are referring to, Colossians 1:15. I have studied for three years with the witnesses.
The thing is, the topic of the mediator will never be discussed with you by none of the witnesses. You know why? The official doctrine is that Jesus is not our mediator. Most witnesses are unaware of this. If you ask a random witness in your congregation: ''who is your mediator?'' they will answer: Jesus!
However, according to the watchttower, Jesus is only the mediator for the 144.000 anointed ones. Today, there are around 15.000 of them. So who can pray in the name of Jesus while knowing that Jesus is their mediator? Only these 15.000. Not you.
The Bible is very, very clear about this topic. There is only one mediator. If it is not Jesus, it can be no one else. So than we have no mediator between us and God.
Can you justify this?
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alcyone
A Believer you have not been baptised yet, but you are using tactics of long time JW apologist. Instead of addressing the point you place here a massive amount of text. Is it so difficult to say simply Prov 8:1-30? Do you think nobody is able to find it in his Bible? Perhaps you should paste here complete Book of Proverbs or the whole Bible...
Instead of diverting attention to JW shaky interpretation of Prov. 8 you should focus more on answering all those difficult question you find in this thread. Then you can add your conclusion why none of predictions made by "God's sole communication channel" has been ever fulfilled.
Edit: I see in meantime you shortened your comment...