My thoughts on the last WT study. Keep in Expectation

by StarTrekAngel 25 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • StarTrekAngel
    StarTrekAngel

    So I sat thru another brain mushing session for the sake of family. It is no myth by now that the more time you spend awake the harder it is the accept that people just take all of this in without asking. A computer has more reasoning abilities than your average JW at this point. You can load and compile new code into a computer. By itself the computer will never know if it is being loaded with a virus but at least the compiler will find syntax errors or dependencies that can't be fulfilled. In the same fashion a JW may not be able to tell if they are in "the truth" without consulting an outside source but you would think they would be able to tell when they are being deviated from the scriptures. Such does not seem to be the case.

    1 Timothy 2:4 speaks of a God who wishes everyone would be saved and come to know him. This isn't one of the many little known scriptures that JW so conveniently ignore. No, this is a well known text and its significance has been the subject of entire wt articles in the past.

    Yet, this past Sunday, the one paragraph often used to drive witnesses to be at the forefront of neighborhood annoyances was utterly dismissed. In summary, the article explained that we should not expect the signs of the end to be so obvious that everyone would se them. If not, the article said, it would cause everyone to believe. See paragraph bellow

    But do you expect conditions to become before “the great tribulation”? (Rev. 7:14) For example, do you expect that there will be a war in every country, no food on anyone’s table, and illness in every household? Under those conditions, even skeptics would likely feel compelled too admit bible prophecy was undergoing fulfillment. However, Jesus said that most people would take no notice of his presence, carrying on with life’s normal activities until it is too late. (Read Matthew 24:37-39.) Thus, the Scriptures indicate that world conditions during the last days would not become so extreme that people would be forced to believe that the end is near”

    In other words, God does not really want everyone to be saved. He is afraid that if he makes the signal too obvious, the prophecies of revelation would not be fulfilled? What happened to Rev 1:7?

    Most JWs don't realize the kind of God they are portraying when they support this teachings. From the stand of a believer, one who loves of people and worships a god who truly wishes for everyone to be saved, such statements don't make any sense. The reality is that the bible speaks of signs that are indeed obvious and that will truly show who would be in expectation and who is not. One of the MS's made a comment saying that being in expectation was like picking someone up at the bus station back in the days when cell phones did not exist. You show up at the bus station in or around the time the bus is supposed to show up. If it doesn't show up on time, you keep looking and waiting. Unfortunately the article makes it sound exactly like the emperors new clothes. Only he would see the bus, everyone else will not.

    another funny thing I noticed while typing this. The bellow statement was added automatically when a copied and pasted a piece of the wt article

    Excerpt From: WATCHTOWER. “The Watchtower, August 15, 2015.” Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc. iBooks.

    This material may be protected by copyright.

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  • Divergent
    Divergent

    2 Pet 3: 9 is another similar scripture - "Jehovah is not slow concerning his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with you because he does not desire anyone to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance.


    Wait... so Jehovah supposedly DOES NOT WANT ANY TO BE DESTROYED, but he intentionally wants to make things hard for people to discern so that they will be destroyed???


    If Jehovah really didn't want any to be destroyed, he would have made "the truth" MORE CONVINCING, and made the broad road lead to everlasting life & the narrow road lead to eternal destruction. BUT nooooo... he made it the complete opposite!!!


    This is exactly why I can't believe that this is the truth. It just doesn't make sense!!!




  • StarTrekAngel
    StarTrekAngel
    Thanks Divergent. Another good text to add. This was just another article to make JWs feel special about their "secret knowledge". I am glad me or my family won't be around for the next one. We will be having a good time somewhere on vacation.
  • FayeDunaway
    FayeDunaway

    Really good points, STA

    Also I always wondered why in Revelation, one third of everything is destroyed, yet witnesses are what, 1 in 1000 people on earth today? (How many times does 8 million go into 8 billion?) Far cry from two out of three!

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    Any shrink worth his doctorate would send "Jehovah" to a supermax facility for the criminally insane.

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    If Jehovah really didn't want any to be destroyed, he would have made "the truth" MORE CONVINCING, and made the broad road lead to everlasting life & the narrow road lead to eternal destruction. BUT nooooo... he made it the complete opposite!!!

    IF Jehovah really didn't want any to be destroyed, he would have selected a better PR group than JWs. They have proved to be a floundering, epic failure in helping others to gain salvation. 1/10th of 1% of the world of mankind. SAD! FAILURE!

    SALVATION SCORE

    SATAN JEHOVAH

    7 Billion 8 Million

    Doc


  • redvip2000
    redvip2000

    "Under those conditions, even skeptics would likely feel compelled too admit bible prophecy was undergoing fulfillment. ..... Thus, the Scriptures indicate that world conditions during the last days would not become so extreme that people would be forced to believe that the end is near”"


    How someone could consider these two statements and think everything is ok is truly mind boggling. However I can't blame them too much because i'm fairly sure that about 10 years ago, i could be in a meeting listening to this and only think about where I want to have dinner after the meeting. This will go in one ear and out the other. The fact is that we as observers pay way more attention to this stuff than the regular JWs.

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    DesirousOfChange - "If Jehovah really didn't want any to be destroyed, he would have selected a better PR group than JWs. They have proved to be a floundering, epic failure in helping others to gain salvation."

    Unless that was his "plan" all along (see my previous post). :wink:

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    So if conditions are expected to be bad, but not so bad that a person cannot deny ...it means that a reasonable man might not pick up the warning. That means that the warning is not clear enough...so God has failed to do it properly.

    "Never may that happen!"

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