It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened 11530 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • DerekMoors
    DerekMoors

    @Route I wouldn't worry about it, it's still useful to know when the URL expires. I'm wondering if he'll even renew that, just to keep it in his name.

  • TonusOH
    TonusOH

    Hmmm... is he sure he wants to give up control of that URL?

  • JeffT
    JeffT

    I thought of this last night while I was fighting my insomnia.

    Victims of child sex abuse do not magically become non-victims the day they become adults. In deed, for some, the victimization may not even start until they are adults. They are still victims. It is a trauma they will grapple with their entire lives, some may overcome the damage of that trauma, but it is still there. Claiming you only hire adult sex workers misses the point: they are still victims.

    You can't claim to represent victims when you are making more of them.

  • NonCoinCollector
    NonCoinCollector

    JeffT, this is exactly what I've been thinking but couldn't put into words.

  • DerekMoors
    DerekMoors

    Lloyd seems to hide behind the thought that they're adults so therefore they must be choosing to be a prostitute. I'm pretty sure no woman grows up thinking "I'll be a prostitute when I grow up and have sex with fat, oily, neckbeards for money! Yay!" The vast majority are forced into it starting when they were children, are kidnapped and drugged or otherwise tortured into compliance, taken from other countries so they have no passport or legal standing, desperate for money, etc.

    And any woman who does go into sex work willingly won't be on the streets of Croatia or Thailand where a cheap slob like him can find them. Besides, what are the odds that every prostitute he picked up was the one in a million who chose it for a profession? Sick POS.

  • Thisismein1972
    Thisismein1972

    Did I just see a comment supporting Lloyd and his rather strange fetish of "dating" trafficked women (girls)?

  • Diogenesister
    Diogenesister
    RayF I got that off another exjw but the contact number and email I posted earlier are accurate

    RaymondF I posted it on here a few pages back and although I would imagine most of the senior members will remain the same (& their numbers) he's obviously been involved with them for some time, because that's the 2021 zoom meeting and this year's was in person. I wonder if some of us should just step in since it's going to be hard for him to attend regularly (now meetings are in person) living in Croatia.

    That's a other reason I don't understand why he's in this group. He has Croation citizenship now & is no longer resident here.

    Although groups are open to anyone I believe you need to request attendance, if anyone is interested.

  • Diogenesister
    Diogenesister
    JeffT In deed, for some, the victimization may not even start until they are adults.

    Jeff everything you wrote was brilliantly put. I disassociated from a lot in my childhood but it all came out in my life choices related to low self esteem that boarded on hatred. Of course the self worth related to JW doctrine plays right in to that.

    In fact as a kid I had (in some cases still have) coping mechanisms that are very similar and so mistaken for Asbergers and my psychologist/Doctor wasn't sure whether I have it, or rather its trauma based. That's very common apparently. There's so much I wish I could say about it but suffice to say you put it perfectly.😟

  • KIMSILVIO
    KIMSILVIO
    Claiming you only hire adult sex workers misses the point: they are still victims.
    You can't claim to represent victims when you are making more of them.

    This is the most succinct summary of the reason that I ultimately felt compelled to disclose. I don’t know whether Lloyd doesn’t understand or chooses not to see. Either way, I agree he cannot represent himself as a CSA advocate.

  • Vintage
    Vintage

    When LE first met the beautiful Croatian pioneer sister, in whom all the young brothers were interested (Lloyd's competition), do you think that while courting her he would have told her, "Oh, yeah, and by the way, after we are married, I intend to have sex with as many women as will have me,... or, as many as I can afford to rent"? Would Dijana have said "yes" to a marriage proposal if she had known that THIS was Lloyd's idea of marriage?

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