It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened 11530 Replies latest watchtower scandals

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  DerekMoors

  Here, let me translate:

  Exorbitant prices were unnerving...

  He's pissed that he had to pay for anything out of his own pocket.

  There seems to be a slightly more glum/hostile atmosphere since the summer.

  No one was there to greet him with open arms, offering to buy him meals and rent him a fancy car and basically litter the sidewalks with flower petals as he travels.

  Important work was done though.

  "Hey, I'm still doing my activism stuff so don't forget to become a patron... or at least leave a tip in the mayonnaise jar I now carry with me wherever I go."
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  Vintage

  Those who are on twitter and other media, please keep us updated whenever an unsuspecting blogger or video maker features LE, so we can then inform that blogger or video maker who they have REALLY interviewed.
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  Las Malvinas son Argentinas

  Back then they were both JW. so I don't think he was thinking of having sex with as many women

  What often gets lost in the wash is the passage in his book where he describes Dijana catching a sext on his phone whilst he was out getting the post. He stated that it wasn’t the first time she had caught him doing this. Knowing his penchant for always admitting to lesser crimes, it’s a safe bet he had carried on several online relationships which did not end when he got married. Nor was it just two times his wife caught him. There is something about that final sext she caught which was way worse than the others that she insisted on bringing the elders into it in order to make it stop. He also sounded a bit bitter towards her in involving the elders and preferred to solve the problem between them which he evidently did every time he got caught.

  So this behaviour has been going on ever since they were married in 2007. At some point he graduated from cybersexting to prostitutes. He had also mentioned in the book plans to meet one of his online cybersexting partners sometime before his marriage.

  As much as many feel inclined to feel pity for Dijana, it’s important to remember that she had been putting up with his unfaithful behaviour for 14 years (2007 - 2021) and happened to have two children with the man in the middle of all this. At what point does she graduate from surprised pioneer sister to full blown enabler?

  We are all adults here and have to deal with the fallout from our bad decisions in life. So does she. What she needs to do is something her husband won’t: find a job and care for her family. Many single women raise two small children and due to her poor decision making in allowing a serial philanderer get away with it and having children with the same person, she finds herself in a bad situation.
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  Vintage

  LE has been gaslighting Dijana ever since he met her.
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  Simon

  Back then they were both JW. so I don't think he was thinking ...

  I wouldn't be so sure - early on he was cheating on his wife by sexting others.

  In fact he was "misbehaving" even before he was married. Which is what make his claim that the WTS "tampered with him" so bizarre - it's not like he ever lived by JW rules.

  He's always been a fraud, whatever life he's pretended to be living.

  Knowing his penchant for always admitting to lesser crimes, it’s a safe bet he had carried on several online relationships which did not end when he got married. Nor was it just two times his wife caught him.

  So this behaviour has been going on ever since they were married in 2007. At some point he graduated from cybersexting to prostitutes.

  Yeah, I don't believe that "every 2-3 months for 4 years" claim, it wouldn't surprise me if he hasn't been doing it all the time, even as a JW.

  Nothing in his book will be "the truth", it will be some scaled back version so as not to sound too bad.

  Reality will likely be far more shocking than anything he admits.
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  Thisismein1972

  Let's face it. This guy has to self-publish his book, no reputable book publisher would go anywhere near his self-aggrandizing, and mostly lies.

  The guy thinks he's the next heartthrob where women just throw themselves at him. Yeah, his personality could attract women, but he has neither the personality nor the looks to pull women as much as he says he does. Hence the need to use prostitutes.
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  DerekMoors

  Those who are on twitter and other media, please keep us updated whenever an unsuspecting blogger or video maker features LE, so we can then inform that blogger or video maker who they have REALLY interviewed.

  Wife is on twitter, doesn't interact with any xJW stuff but does peek at his page every day just to keep informed.

  Unfortunately neither of us are anywhere else except YouTube so can't keep track of his Facebook or other pages. He did threaten to leave twitter (Yeah, that'll show Elon who's boss LOL) but we know that's crap, he needs every shred of attention he can possibly get especially now with just a few straggling followers left.

  Anyway, happy Sunday all.
  
  
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  Las Malvinas son Argentinas

  Which is what make his claim that the WTS "tampered with him" so bizarre - it's not like he ever lived by JW rules.

  What he means by this is his juvenile fantasy to bang as many as he could and live the stereotypical hedonistic bachelor lifestyle. He’d have rather written a diary of his sexual escapades of engaging in threesomes and public sex than one about escaping the JWs. He feels that WT’s rules forced him to moderate this into masturbation marathons, cybersexting and visiting prostitutes.

  What I noticed in his book was his constant declarations of love for his wife, yet nowhere in there does he explain the why other than two other pioneers wanted her and it became a competition. He doesn’t really speak too much about her personality and what attracted him to her other than her gentle and forgiving nature, always eager to play peacemaker and avoid conflict.
  
  I think he saw a sucker he could manipulate and Lloydsplain all the betrayals away as the actions of a great but flawed man who’s trying his best in the wake of the tragedy of his mum passing. In fact I think he used his mum’s death as a wedge to connect with her regarding the tragic loss of her brother. It’s how manipulators work. Once he got her talking about her brother he immediately switched it to his mum and cue the forced tears.
  
  

  Later on down the line or possibly when she first caught him he starts into these pity sessions of threatening suicide. The pattern continues until she’s so beat down she doesn’t want to confront him anymore.
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  DerekMoors

  Which is what make his claim that the WTS "tampered with him" so bizarre - it's not like he ever lived by JW rules.

  He keeps presenting this argument that if he wasn't raised in the WT, he would have a fulfilling sex life and not need to sext while married and use prostitutes. Well, 2 things wrong with that:

  1. Lloyd's ugliness inside and out would hinder him having a good relationship with anyone, WT or not. He's narcissistic and self-absorbed to the extreme, bullies people, needs to always be right, a moocher, an attention seeker, and lazy. He also has zero self-control and the emotional maturity of a toddler, and doesn't seem to take an interest in anything around him (art, books, science, history, culture, etc.) unless it's about him, the only exception I see being his obsession with Star Wars.

  What woman wouldn't want to hitch her wagon to that star?

  Especially "worldly" women who have their choice of men, instead of just needing to pick a guy from the small dating pool in their circuit.

  "Worldly" women also don't need to put up with shit; you treat them bad, guess what... they can divorce you. They don't need the elders' permission or have someone tell them god will kill them at armageddon if they don't obey you like a beaten dog.

  Men I know outside the religion aren't perfect but they do step up, knowing their wives have choices or at least will give them hell if they don't get their act together.

  2) WT rules about sex don't excuse anyone being such an ass to your wife. If you're not happy at home, you discuss and work things out to a point you can both agree on and that respect both of you, or go your own separate ways. You don't demand the wife look the other way while you act like a selfish pig. No upbringing in the world excuses that.

  IMHO the WT definitely fed into Lloyd's immaturity and narcissism but sorry, he's a defective product on his own. The fact that he got away from WT's control and then, instead of becoming a better man, he became even more disgusting in his treatment of his wife and people in general shows that it's not WT's influence that makes him a horrid person. He's just horrid, period.
  
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  Vintage

  “... or have someone tell them god will kill them at armageddon if they don't obey you like a beaten dog.”

  I had to look back up to the top of the post to see who it was that had “been there” and knew what I knew. DerekMoors, ...when will Watchtower melt like the faces in Raiders of the Lost Ark?