It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened 11530 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • Diogenesister
    Diogenesister
    SBF Great to see a video from Katie Kitten again. I had no idea he pushed Louise away too. He’s got a lot to answer for.

    Katie (Louise) and Lara Kaputt from Australia who did a lot with CSA survivors with Steven Unthank had been running the JW community podcast for a few years. They did a podcast where they said something not complementary about Lloyd (I think around BCG) and so Lloyd got the original owner of the podcasts' name (who'd had no connection with it for years) to shut it down completely.

    Louise Laura et all had to start JW community podcast, but of course lost a lot of their subscribers because Lloyd did a number on them after he took it away.

  • Davros
    Davros
    LE is claiming on Twitter the letter from his wife is fake and added to his legal defamation claim.

    If it is fake, how do we know he isn't the one faking it in order to get sympathy and show proof of how his enemies are attacking him?

  • Diogenesister
    Diogenesister

    I know posting this seems mean. But I feel so angry with the way he's treated SO many people over the years. The way he's been able to control everyone and laud himself as THE expert given he was an elder for a couple of months and wrote an autobiography (which many have done before).. He's stolen people's ideas (example Neil Gardner) and used their work to earn money without ever sharing the proceeds (example Vince Deporter the SpongeBob artist)

    But I'm also annoyed with us for allowing it (although Simon took a stand). He's been a bully his whole life...that's why I'm re posting this.

  • Diogenesister
    Diogenesister

    I suppose if it's real claiming it's fake is all he can do now. Otherwise he's finished. If it's real it would also be in character.

    WHAT WORRIES ME ABOUT THEM

    I would like to ask Mike and kim if they've established who this guy is, if as they claim he has no social media accounts. How do we know he's not some crazy troll? After all Mike and kim don't speak Croation and it can be really hard to asses someone's personality when they speak another language - especially over Skype etc Has anyone in Croatia verified who he is IN PERSON??

    Also, why would Dijana send her cousin these texts if the cousin has already caused problems by allowing her husband to tweet the 14 year old girl chat screenshots?

    I mean would YOU trust someone who had made those public? Unless of course you WANTED them made public...which leads me to in favour of it's being true....

    WHY I THINK THEYRE TRUE

    Second: It is strange Dijana hasn't come out and completely denied these messages are false. I don't mean a patreon post, that could be him.

    I mean if the whole thing is fake you'd think she'd be on video by now utterly repudiating the whole thing. This makes me think it's true....

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    It says the iPhone messages were sent on the 18th January, so that’s before the Marko leak. It was also before Kim Silvio’s statement, but also in a period when his wife was also confiding in Kim about how difficult the situation was. That would explain why she was still sending her cousin messages, because it was before the Marko leaks. If they are leaks. This is getting terribly complicated. The date is also a good match for when he returned from Thailand and would plausibly have been causing trouble at home. If someone is making this up, they are going to extraordinary lengths to maintain a consistent, plausible timeline.

    What isn’t complicated is that he is an extremely nasty person who wouldn’t think twice about harming other people. We can see this clearly from his own livestream. There was nothing fake about that.

    Are the old JW podcasts still available?

  • Simon
    Simon
    I mean if the whole thing is fake you'd think she'd be on video by now utterly repudiating the whole thing. This makes me think it's true ...

    Yes, a posted text message saying "I am Dijana and Lloyd is wonderful and innocent" isn't as convincing as a video would be, because he's used her account on this site, and if he is as controlling as is claimed then it wouldn't be far fetched to imagine he's the one actually posting. It also wouldn't be what I imagine most (any?) wife would say after the revelations he came out with.

    But if she does appear on a video, blink twice if you're being compelled to do it and need rescue ... LOL

    If someone is making this up, they are going to extraordinary lengths to maintain a consistent, plausible timeline.
    What isn’t complicated is that he is an extremely nasty person who wouldn’t think twice about harming other people. We can see this clearly from his own livestream. There was nothing fake about that.

    That's what I find incredible. Not only does everything fit in a consistent way, but some of it predates the subsequent revelations / allegations and fit exactly with the behavior and excuses given. My experience of people is that they re-use excuses for behavior if they have found they have worked in the past.

  • NonCoinCollector
    NonCoinCollector

    About 12 minutes into Kim and Mikey's latest video they start talking about JLE walking around a mine field where he was eventually detained by police. How else would they know that unless Marko is real? Also, 78 PAGES OF DIALOG over a 7 year period would be crazy to make up. Their last video erased any doubts I had about Marko. JLE is lying and Dijana and the children are in danger.

  • silentlamb_silent_no_more
    silentlamb_silent_no_more
    Diogenester Second: It is strange Dijana hasn't come out and completely denied these messages are false. I don't mean a patreon post, that could be him ... I mean if the whole thing is fake you'd think she'd be on video by now utterly repudiating the whole thing. This makes me think it's true....
    Whilst I would love to see that personally, how would we know she was not saying it under duress? Coercive control which she might be a vicitm to?

    I often wondered why my mother stood by my abusive father. Put simply, he is a narcissistic abuser, would promise to change his ways. I seen otherwise though. I watched as he promised to change and mask fell so many times. Trauma bonds are real and JLE if you're reading, maybe you should go and look up the term flying monkeys and find out what that means. Put simply, they do the biddling of the narcissist either willingly, or unwillingly.

    I see many of the evan's gate followers on his twitter attacking those who are giving out reasonable responses to his whiney behaviour. Sad that they continue in a cult mindset, not questioning, not reasoning and totally giving adulation to this man who has admitted to committing the crime of buying prostitutes in the country he resides in, possibly in the country he went to where he had "edibles" which is street slang in the UK for illicit drugs.

    Piece it all together folks and stop giving him the adulation that neither he, nor Watchtower Babble and Crap Society, deserves!

    I really hope his wife and girls are safe because right now, he looks like a guy who is totally unhinged with his fake legal team and the reason I say fake is because they would be telling him to stfu! He's incriminating himself with every tweet, patreon post etc.
  • NonCoinCollector
    NonCoinCollector

    I couldn't help myself but reply.


  • AudeSapere
    AudeSapere

    Toward the bottom of page 77 of this thread, for the YouTube vid 'The Reluctant Saboteur'...

    The poster asked for comments. I have 2:

    1. The video is well worth the 3.5 minute watch time. Answers a few questions people may have.

    2. In the thumbnail for the video, the man toward the right looking at the camera... He looks like Harvey Weinstein, pre-incarceration. I'm not implying ANYTHING. I don't know the man. But each time I scrolled thru, Harvey Weinstein caught my attention.

    The poster invited comments. Those are mine.

    -Aude.

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