Rebel - infinity + infinity + infinity = 3 therefore the trinity.
REALLY?
I will do you the honour of assuming you are being sarcastic.
what is the ontlogical trinity
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The Rebel
Actually Cofty, I wasn't being sarcastic. Sarcasm is to say in the name of Chritianality, people are capable of murdering billions.
But I think your answer " I will do you the honour of assuming you were sarcastic" doesn't understand my earlier post " how long is a piece of string"
If you can't answer " how long is a piece of string" why do you assume that your challenge on the trinity can be answered?
The Rebel.
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cofty
non-sequiturnɒn ˈsɛkwɪtə/noun- a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement.
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For example - "If you can't answer " how long is a piece of string" why do you assume that your challenge on the trinity can be answered?"
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Wonderment
The Searcher: "If God could appear as a man called Jesus nearly 2000 years ago, what stopped Him from performing the same materialisation 1500 years earlier, and why did He lie to Moses saying that it wasn't possible? (Exodus 33:20)"
Good point!
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cofty
Still no christians taking on the challenge then?
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Clambake
Who do you think did the apostles of Jesus thought he was (at the end of his ministry ) ? Did they think he was god in the flesh or the arch angel Michael. For me the question is really that simple. I don’t know how is all works, I just read the gospels and believe what the authors of the new testament believed.
Comfy still looks at the bible like some code cracking idiot JW. Selectively reading text while trying to find holes in the story and can’t see the forest because of all the trees. He is a waste of time and fucking idiot.
You just keep pouring over all the fine details so you can blow our minds Comfy. Bamboozle Bamboozle.
At least you are getting lots of hours this month ………LoL
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cofty
Who do you think did the apostles of Jesus thought he was - Clambake
The messiah. They were convinced that he was going to return in glory to make them all kings of the world within their lifetime. That is how they managed to justify abandoning their wives, children and businesses and following him around Palestine.
I don’t know how is all works
So you don't know why you believe what you do and you can't begin to explain it. Is that not what JWs do?
Comfy still looks at the bible like some code cracking idiot JW. Selectively reading text
On the contrary I take account of the entire bible along with it's historical, theological and cultural context. I know the bible really well. I wouldn't criticise something I didn't understand
He is a waste of time and fucking idiot. - Clambake
Typical christian reaction when they can't answer a simple question.
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cofty
The Challenge
Imagine somebody with no knowledge of theology asks you about your god.
They know that you worship Jesus. They know that you also worship "the god and father of Jesus".
Please explain as simply as possible how you avoid the charge of polytheism without contradicting yourself, without using specialist theological terms and without resorting to non-answers like "it's a mystery".
If you could use an everyday illustration as well that would be very helpful.
If you can't explain one of your most crucial beliefs simply why not?
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Clambake
Actually the gospels are the story the apostles realizing Jesus was first the promised messiah from the old testament, the son of god and after his resurrection realizing he was actually the manifestion of god in the flesh.
The book of John is basically makes the claim he was the angel of the lord from the old testament. The figure that appeared both with god and was identified as god .
Please learn more about the believed pre-incarcerated appearances of Jesus in the old testament. It really helps understand the new testament.
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cofty
Please learn more about the believed pre-incarcerated appearances of Jesus in the old testament - Clambake
I already know all about that.
It doesn't help to answer my very simple question.
However you get a bonus point for making a post without calling me a "fucking idiot".