I find it perplexing

by SheilaM 29 Replies latest jw friends

  • Valis
    Valis

    Sheila, is there a difference in venting and continually saying things that are hurtful, out of line, racially offensive, threatening, or otherwise? I would say yes and that sometimes the author has to use just as much discernment in what they write as does the reader they intend to speak to and how one interprets their words. Acting one's worst assumes that there is an oposite, which for many rarely gets the chance to shine, whether it be that by choice or circumstance. ah well...my two cents... I hope all is well in Thunder/Sheila land...OH and BTW, can you have Thunder debone a turkey and fed ex it please? *LOL*

    Sincerely,

    District Overbeer

  • shamus
    shamus

    It may sound like I am suckholing simon here, but let me tell you...

    His post was incredibly hateful toward someone who did personal harm to him. And it was not his first time.... like it was not just "an accident". It was intentional. It could cause Simon to have serious legal difficulties to say the least.... posting a persons face on this forum and making accusations, weather true or not is not cool. It's called slander.

    I suffer from depression. I know. I can say some pretty horrible things too. Hammas needs to get help in order to save himself from himself... make sense? I warned him that he was self-destructing in his post, and he would get banned. He didn't care.

    When you have someone calling moderators pricks, after many warnings it's time to go. Maybe he will be back, maybe not. I am not Hammas, and cannot say if he is truly sorry for putting Simon in legal jeopardy.

    In any event, circumstances can be understood, but BLATANT DISREGARD for the rules causing serious legal difficulties cannot be tolerated. In other words, Simon bent over backwards for hammas and he did not get it. Hopefully he does now, and can see just how low he really is.

    It is only until you have hit rock bottom that you realize that you need help. I commend Simon for not putting up with this nonsense anymore. Persons cannot be slandered, no matter how horrible they may or may not be.

    Hammas, I wish that you would come back to the forum. However, you need to talk to Simon first. You need to really understand your anger and get help first. Depression cannot be a cop-out. If you were to hurt a certain someone, that defence would be thrown in the toilet.

    Anyhoo, hopefully this is the end of it.

  • SheilaM
    SheilaM

    Valis: Oh wise overbeerPS You are welcome anytime for a turkey. I would be worried about fed-exing a turkey we wouldn't want the district overbeer to have food poisoning. Maybe he could make one if we come down the end of the month.

    Shamus: Thank you for your input. I do think sometimes that young people or people without a good support systems many times make bad choices.

  • shamus
    shamus

    You're welcome, Sheila.

    I wouldn't feel too bad about it... he made the choice, not us. I hope that he gets it together and is back here one day.... I have nothing against the man.

  • berylblue
    berylblue

    I am not perplexed, only deeply grieved. I really care for Hamas and I am afraid his self-destructive behavior may show up in areas of his life much more important than this.

  • Englishman
    Englishman
    I really care for Hamas and I am afraid his self-destructive behavior may show up in areas of his life much more important than this.

    I agree. He is capable of some remarkable insights. If he can get to grips with his dislike of anyone telling him what he can or can't do without blowing his top he'll be fine. I hope that it's sooner than later.

    Englishman.

  • Special K
    Special K

    Hey Sheila..

    I too find your bold italics very hard to read..

    sincerely

    special k

  • SheilaM
    SheilaM

    Specil K: Thanks but I like them

  • berylblue
    berylblue

    I don't think I worded my comment right.

    I don't find it perplexing that Hamas was deleted. I didn't myself read the offensive posts, but judging from the comments, they were pretty...er, bad.

    Hamas is capable of tremendous kindness. I've seen him offer support to a number of persons; he is always ready with a kind thought. But whatever it was that happened to him, in his life, it must have been pretty bad. He is suffering. That is apparent.

    It is not, however, the moderators' job to be psychotherapists.

    Still, I found his deletion upsetting, to say the least.

    I know we are not supposed to be publicly airing our displeasure at the moderators' decisions, but since the thread is here and it is not yet locked, I wanted to add my thoughts. Please don't be offended, Mods....I just really care for Hamas. I understand him. . My self-destructive behavior took a different form...I took out my pain on myself...in an indirect way, that is what Hamas is doing.

    Rosemarie, Ph.D. wanna be

  • Valis
    Valis

    Welle beryl...there has to be some personal accountability right? Just because you exhibit self destructive behavior does not mean you should be able to engage in it around others ad infinitum. Such behavior does and should have consequences. Maybe he can come back later without so much of an ego as to not do what Englishman spoke of and get pissed at people when they suggest he tone it down.

    Sincerely,

    District Overbeer

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