My thoughts on Mexican immigrants

by czarofmischief 25 Replies latest social current

  • czarofmischief
    czarofmischief

    One of the pressing issues in the California election is (as always) the presence of "illegal" immigrants who come into our country, work under the table, and send money home.

    My position on this matter, since I am a Republican, might surprise you, but I favor NO immigration restrictions at all with Mexico! Why?

    The mass immigration would solve many problems - there are many jobs, entry level and low-paying, that Americans won't take because they don't pay enough. Fruit picking, for instance. It has to be done, and is often done by immigrants because they work for cheap and work hard. Capitalism requires a source of cheap labor. Therefore, I say we make the process legal because it happens all the time anyway. No point making criminals out of people who aren't doing anything wrong.

    Mexican goodwill would be engendered by such a gesture. There are many families split up on both sides of the border, with immigrants making dangerous treks to get from one side to the other. Take the inhuman pain and suffering out of the equation.

    On the part of my racist counterparts, they will shriek that the Mexicans will bankrupt our Social Security system if they can enroll in legal, taxpaying jobs. I say, their labor is just like anybody else's, and if they can contribute to a SS system that sorely needs new labor, and new labor right now, then they should be welcomed.

    What about the cultural issues? Language, primarily. I say that if people can't realize that the language we spoke even one hundred years ago is substantially different from what we speak today, and that the language in one hundred years will reflect a merging of Anglo and Mexican language patterns - then they are flying in the face of historical fact. Could you imagine if Elizabethan English was the "official" language of America? After all, isn't that what they spoke when the Puritans landed here?

    Finally, on a more personal note, any nation that can invent tequila deserves a Most Favored Immigration Status.

    Any further comments or perspectives on this issue would be welcomed. I am seriously thinking of a career in politics.

    CZAR

  • frenchbabyface
    frenchbabyface



    Nothing to say myself ... I just agree with what you've said !!!

  • Gopher
    Gopher

    "No restrictions", eh? Is anyone with influence in American politics persuaded that this will work?

    It's an idea that is so radical, basically removing the border -- that nobody in public life will dare voice it.

    The idea is worthy of public debate. I just wonder if it'll ever get proposed by anyone with enough influence to make public debate of this idea occur.

  • SpunkyChick
    SpunkyChick
    any nation that can invent tequila deserves a Most Favored Immigration Status.

    Yumm, I'd have to agree with you on that account. Don Julio tequila is the best! don Julio, Tequila

    Opening up the boarders is a radical thought. Czar, what are your opinions on NAFTA and how that's worked/not worked for Mexico? Just curious...

  • czarofmischief
    czarofmischief

    I think that NAFTA was the greatest boon to American business in years. I think it was a significant contributing factor to the economic success of the 1990's.

    Protective tariffs are contrary to the American spirit - by evenhandedly dropping them on both imports and exports from a certain country, the American is put into direct competition / business acquisition relationships with, for instance, Mexican and Canadian firms. Thus, American entrepreneurial ingenuity is put to the test and our innate ability to find a profit is brought to the fore. The American, traditionally, when faced with competition, has not sought to outlaw it, but to beat it, fair and square, in the market.

    And if the products are of even quality and price, then it comes down to advertising. And nobody can beat the New York / L.A. combine at making something trivial seem necessary, even vital.

    So NAFTA has been a boost to the American economy as we search for new products and services to deliver to the New World Order. Our manufacturing base is eroding, because American labor is more expensive than other countries. So those jobs are heading south, to Mexico. But we have some of the best educated workers in the world, a resource that is going to become more valuable, I think, as the Internet assumes a larger share of global transactions.

    Protective tariffs encourage complacency, which is what the steel industry REALLY choked on, for instance. In my area of Pittsburgh, we have seen all the steel leave in twenty short years. In the absence of government protection, the steel industry has had to adapt. Much of our steel production is now undertaken in plants in Mexico, South Africa, and Germany. What is left is a pile of service economy jobs - but the encouraging thing is that we have become a leading center of medical services. It's an industry that requires greater education on behalf of its employees, but offers good pay, benefits, retirement packages, and draws money from all over the world.

    Tariffs should not be a matter of political expediency, but a matter of genuinely raising revenue for the government's necessary expenditures.

    Idea for new industries for the USA:

    If the USA legalized marijuana and marijuana production, we would not only rapidly become the world's largest producers of high-quality ganja, we'd make a killing on the high-quality end of our market.

    If the USA legalized cocaine production and use, we'd be able to leave Colombia to its own devices and we'd make a ton of money. I know it's a cold statement, but if you are stupid enough to use cocaine then you should at least be dumping that money into useful programs instead of outfitting some dealers pad.

    CZAR

  • AlanF
    AlanF

    I pretty much agree with everything you've said in this thread, Czar.

    The California economy, and that of plenty of other states, would collapse without illegal immigrants doing farm work. Every politician knows this, but also knows where his political bread is buttered, and so the government is paralyzed from doing much constructive.

    AlanF

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Well put, czar. The border dissolving idea could universalised. After all, aren't all borders purely artificial, for the purpose of keeping order/control?

    SS

  • Redneck
    Redneck

    NAFTA was good for us?...I take it you werent one of the ones effected by there jobs leaving the US..I am from an area that was highly effected by it...and our low paying minial jobs..well US Citezens worked them...

    I dont get how supplying money for illegal immigrants is what any taxpayers want..I hear we have so much to do in our country we shouldnt police the world..That would start with taken care of our citezens not ILLEGAL immigrants...

  • Double Edge
    Double Edge

    Do any of you guys LIVE in California?

  • wednesday
    wednesday

    I believe they had a part on 20/20 about htis recently. Texas has the same problem, and if all the illegals working in the construction, cleaning, and food businesses quit, and went home, our economy owuld be in bad shape here. M<ost americans do not wnat to do these jobs. I agree, might as well make them legal, they come anyway, and do provide a source of cheap labor.

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