I got my nerve up, gonna try this again!

by LostMyReligion 28 Replies latest jw friends

  • emyrose
    emyrose

    Hi Lostmyreligion,

    Wow, it seems you have a long journey ahead of you on the road to freedom. Now you can start anew and experience many things you
    could not before. So all sorts of fun-fun-fun and exciting experiences
    await you. Yet, many battles and obstacles lay ahead too.
    Not only will you have to built an almostly entirely new identity as a non-jw but you will also need to strive to keep your family together.
    This will be a very delicate and highly complicated task, oh but what a worthwhile mission it will be. Think about the wonderful opportunites that are possible now for you and your sons. I hope that
    you will get profesional advice about how to get your son to open his
    eyes and leave the cult. And I hope that you get profesional help so that you can cope well with leaving the cult too.
    I found that taking my sweet time instead of rushing with every aspect
    of leaving is helping me cope well. For example, even though many ex-jws have preached atheism to me I found that holding on to God has
    really helped me go through much tragedy in my life. So if you still
    feel a need to turn to God and belief in him don't let others push
    you or humiliate you into discarding him. Keep praying for help if you want to.

    Remembering you in my prayers,
    Emyrose

  • waiting
    waiting

    Howdy, Lost (but not for long),

    wow.....I kinda liked the name "Truman" - like the movie? He thinks his world is pretty darned good - and finds out it's not a world at all. Just a massive make-believe, and not even for his own good.

    Truman, the movie, has a lot with our WTBTS experience. The effort to break out and breath - and think - freely is worth the effort.

    You've been corresponding with my sweet sister, Patio, I see. She's good company. I'm so-so and much meaner. She's my older sister, and I'm meaner due to childhood persecution by her. Don't bother to ask her, however, she'll deny it. Older sisters are that way!

    But she has a very devout jw ms son also, and a couple of others in the Borg. Mine left before me, so my departure was easier.

    Glad to have you here by whatever name suits you. My name "waiting" is mistaken to be a man's also. Then Simon stuck me with "emporer" - so I just finally got used to cross-titling. I still wear lipstick though.

    AlanF had some really fine advice about taking your own sweet time to finding your balance. The rug's been pulled from beneath us all, and it takes much time, thinking, ranting, chatting, reading, to find our equilibrium again. But it's worth the effort - just like Truman.

    Welcome.

    waiting

  • Had Enough
    Had Enough

    Greetings and Welcome LMR!

    As I was reading your story I felt as though I was reading my own all over again.

    I too started to post hear about 2 months ago and fought a lot of fear to make myself do it. Once I did, and so many warm welcomes and good wishes were sent my way, I sighed a deep sigh of relief and have experienced so much satisfaction at being able to express myself, my true inner opinions and feelings for the first time.

    I am in the same position as you family-wise...with one a strong active JW daughter(but married) and one son having experienced the same kind of disappointment from the elders, feeling never good enough. He is now da'd and not associating. I have yet though to discuss with either of them what I have found out and have had to take care not to say too much here about myself. I don't want my family to be put in the position to have to shun me if I was ever df'd for, God forbid, "having an opinion" contrary to what 'Big Brother' says

    I am taking the advice given here to take it slow and subtle and gathering as much ammunition as I can.

    My first exposure to the real facts about the borg. was from Ray Franz's book Crisis of Conscience, which practically brought me to my knees. Like you, it felt like my whole world crashed down around me, everything I had ever believed in, my whole foundation, just turned to dust and blew away, leaving me reeling in confusion.

    And much the same way as you did, once I found the first website, that one lead to others and then to here.

    Slowly, through the sound, mature, encouraging postings and the wealth of knowledge many have shared from their vast exploration of the WTS publications and the experiences so many have shared, I am starting to gain my strength back.

    I no longer go to the meetings, but still do go to DAs and CAs to help my family with our aging parent but this time, I know, this coming DA is going to be sheer torture for me but I have more that I will say on that later.

    Again, it was good to read your story and feel a kindred spirit with you. I look forward to "seeing" more from you.

    Had Enough

  • slipnslidemaster
    slipnslidemaster

    Welcome and thank you for posting your story.

    I'm not going to repeat what the others like AlanF have already so eloquently stated.

    I will say this however, you are not alone. You should be getting a sense of this from the posts above. Take Hebrews 10:24,25 to heart but in a slightly different way. Don't forsake fellowshipping with us. We are all in different stages but all of us understand what you are going through.

    One other resourse that I like that Jang didn't mention on Yahoo! is the Yahoo! Chat. There are both hardcore ex-ers and softer "recovery" oriented ones.

    I highly recommend it. Tell them Slip sent you.

    Slipnslidemaster: Doin' the humpty hump...just doin' the humpty hump...

  • riz
    riz

    Hey, LMR!

    I have to keep this short because my computer is acting up, but I just wanted to say HOORAY! I am SO proud of you!

    I have really enjoyed our correspondence, and I hope I was of some help. I know you will be ok. It's really rough at the beginning, but believe it or not, it gets better.

    We are ALL here for you. Don't ever feel like you are all alone in this.

    I am overjoyed that you came back to join us. I'm so proud of you.

    rizzy

    If at first you don't succeed, skydiving should not be your sport of choice.

  • Cliff Jackson
    Cliff Jackson

    Lost Religion says: "Identifiable, quantifiable mind control techniques were being used on us as witnesses. I thought, if the WTS had the truth, would it really need to be enforced by these methods? I kept reading at freeminds and other sites for 2-3 hours, and at the end of the session, it was as if everything I had believed had evaporated in front of my eyes like a mist. I knew I could never view any of it the same. Since then I am online reading everything I can find on the WTS."

    You say: "Oh, and don't let the braindead JW defenders here bother you. I'm sure you've already spotted them, as they're far more braindead than your average Witness cult member.

    AlanF

    Where are these JW defenders here? All I see are intelligent free thinkers who have had enough of false prophecies and doctrines. Even the delusional You Know seems to be condemning the Watchtower.

    Why don't you all join me at www.about.com forums and see if we can rouse the few real JWs there?

  • Cliff Jackson
    Cliff Jackson

    <<One other resourse that I like that Jang didn't mention on Yahoo! is the Yahoo! Chat. There are both hardcore ex-ers and softer "recovery" oriented ones.

    I highly recommend it. Tell them Slip sent you.>>

    The problem with most all of these sites is that no JW will ever post there. Try www.about.com forums and look for Xatheist. He is a proud JW from Houston and WILL answer your questions until you hit him with 1914 etc.

    You will enjoy about.com

  • LostMyReligion
    LostMyReligion

    Thanks so much to all who responded to my story! I really appreciate all the warm welcomes and well considered advice.

    Larc, I know that you are one of the premier posters here, and it is gratifying to read of your emotional response to my experience. And yes, I do find that writing about these things is very therapeutic, as well as reading the stories and comments of all the others.

    Jang, thanks for the list of URL's; I will be checking them out definitely.

    AlanF,You have mentioned several issues that I am dealing with. My husband of 28 years is a baptized witness, but has been totally inactive for a few years. He has been fairly understanding and tolerant of my transformation, and will not condemn me or report me. At first, he kept saying that if I would just quit reading all that "stuff", I would get over it, but now he sees that will not happen. As far as my younger son, I immediately went to him and told him that I would cease trying to make him feel guilty for his choice to leave, and we have repaired our strained relationship. He is pretty much an atheist now, and a bit of an iconoclast and will not be going back to the KH. For the rest of it, I think your advice on subtlety is probably the way to go, but it is not easy. I'm trying.

    Francoise, thanks for your insights, I will have to remember that "evil twin" thing!

    emyrose, I concur with your comments on not necessarily discarding God with the WTS. I no longer know exactly who God is or exactly what he expects of humans like I thought I did before, but I do feel that there is more to life, the universe, and everything than can be explained through purely through physical means.

    Waiting, Yea, I liked the Truman name too, that movie really speaks to me. Corresponding with your sister has been very helpful to me, and I hope that someday perhaps I may get to meet her. Her situation with kids is close to mine and it helps to get that perspective on things.

    Had Enough, I really feel for you, having the prospect still ahead of you revealing yourself to your children, both JW and nonJW. It was very difficult for me to tell my JW son that in effect everything I had taught him all his life , I now have serious problems with. I did not go into much detail with him, and after the initial conversations, he asks no questions. I know that in his eyes I am damaged goods, and no longer trustworthy spiritually. He is a fair minded man though, and tries hard to treat me normally. He did tell me though that if it came to a choice between me and the cong., he would have to go with the cong. It makes me very sad, but I understand where it is coming from. I too have to go to the DA next week, and like you said---sheer torture. I'll be thinking about you!

    Riz, thanks for listening to me during some of my darkest days. Just knowing that someone was out there was a lifeline for me. Thanks so much!

    Thanks to everyone else who responded, professor, scorpion ,crossroads, anglise, neyank, slipnslidemaster ( is your name a reference to that venerable kid's water toy for lawns?), and cliff jackson.

    LMR

  • larc
    larc

    This out of context but,

    I want to say hello to Emyrose. I haven't seen your writings for awhile. I am glad you are back with us!

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    G'day Lostmyreligion,

    The trouble with being on the other side of this planet is that I get to the welcoming parties late!

    Anyhow, now that I've arrived (I've got out of that being 20 minutes early for the meetings lark) let me add words of welcome from Mr & Mrs Ozzie.

    It's good to read the comments warmly welcoming you here. As you know this is usually a very happy home. So glad you got up the courage to say hi!

    Many feel hesitant.I remember the first BBQ we had for ex-JWs in Sydney, Mrs Ozzie was full of trepidation. Not now! And that's a benefit of this board.

    So, again, welcome and thanks for an interesting first post.

    Cheers,
    Ozzie

    Freedom is not having to wear a tie.

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