The Revolving Door; Does Nobody Notice?

by shamus 29 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • shamus
    shamus

    Think about a typical dub.

    You get brought into the truth. The person that brought you into the truth brings in, say, 2 people. Yourself and another... 1 person stays, the other leaves. The person who brought you into "the truth" is DF'd, Da'd, or just goes inactive.

    Now you bring in 2 people into the truth... 1 stays, 1 goes.. doesn't it seem strange that there is always a revolving door here? I mean, seriously!~ Dpesm

    t ot seem like it just keeps going around and around? Have you ever seen this? The revolving congregation? Doesn't this seem odd?

    Just wondering... what kind of changes can you see in a Kingdom Hall in, say, 10 years? Wouldn't it strike you as odd, that people never stay?

  • SanFranciscoJim
    SanFranciscoJim

    Sounds like a chain letter that doesn't quite work.

  • jayhawk1
    jayhawk1

    It is not quite a revolving door. Their membership has doubled in the last 20 years.

  • SanFranciscoJim
    SanFranciscoJim
    Their membership has doubled in the last 20 years.

    Ahhh...but how many of that number will still be members in the next 20 years?

  • shamus
    shamus

    Exactly, SF Jim.

    So, the average person in the truth only stays for so long... that means that mostly corpses are giving the truth to people, if you want to put it that way.

    OMG, most people who give others the truth do not stay with it. They are considered dead at armageddon. Does this make sense?

  • jayhawk1
    jayhawk1
    Ahhh...but how many of that number will still be members in the next 20 years?

    Um well, hopefully a big zero . I do agree the door seems to be revolving a bit these days. My old congregation seems to be a bit stagnant.

  • dmouse
    dmouse

    I agree only to an extent.

    There is a portion of congregations that can be described as a revolving door- the younger generation.

    But there is a significant proportion that will always be there - those that have been around since the year dot. In my congregation there are many old faces who will never leave until they are carried out in a coffin.

    Many of those are very old and sickly now. I think that we may well see decreases in numbers soon as these older ones start to die off in increasing quantities. A different kind of door, and one that doesn't revolve!

  • Oroborus21
    Oroborus21

    Greetings,

    the growth of Jehovah's Witnesses over the last 20-30 years has to be considered in the context of a number of factors including, doctrinal direction and general sociological considerations.

    By doctrinal direction I mean simply this: taking the past few decades at a time, during each period there was within the structure of the JW theology a FIRM TIME OF EXPECTATION of "the end." (In fact one could argue that this has always been so since Russell's date setting) but picking up with the early 70' s there was the 1975 Date of course.

    In the 80's after the Great Purging of Bethel that occurred at the turn of the decade, the WT rhetoric shifted noticeably to the "hardline" and this coupled with the (perceived) Cold War tensions and other global political conflicts, led the Society to really push the End is Near cry including of course, strong statements with regard to the Generaltion Doctrine, which carried well into the 90's. (Add to this growing concerns that arose thanks to Rachel Carson over the environment, terrorism, the economy, etc.)

    However, when the Society had to abandon the Generation Doctrine and having acquiesed to the pursuit of Higher Education for its members, and most importantly, the communications explosion of the Internet (WWW), the Revolution has already begun, unbeknownst to the majority of those associated with JWs.

    Already, the Society has admitted for several years that the expected growth in the US and similar lands where the truth has been preached for some time are experiencing minimal growth, essentially nothing other than present family members of JWs (and my suspicion is that even these are coming in in less and less numbers as the youngsters are exposed to counter-JW information via the Net).

    The only growth to speak of is coming in new lands where the witnesses are relatively a new religion and in reality this growth is quite minimal.

    Because we are for the first time within JWs at a point of Dogmatic Drift and without any Firm Endtime, the rallying call in the most general sense of "Last Days" is all that JWs have left and this amorphous motivation is very unlikely to sustain any growth or even the present membership for any appreciable period of time.

    No, as we eventually reach the inevitable point in time when all of the ANOINTED are supposed to have left this Earth, big changes within the JW religion will necessarily take place.

    Beginning, some time next year I will be launching my own website: Jehovahs-Witnesses.net, where I will be expanding on some of what I have mentioned in this post and much more.

    In the mean time,

    Welcome, to the Revolution!

    Eduardo

  • Country_Woman
    Country_Woman

    I agree: ?But there is a significant proportion that will always be there - those that have been around since the year dot. In my congregation there are many old faces who will never leave until they are carried out in a coffin.?

    In my old congregation I saw lots of youngers coming in and disappearing .....

  • rocketman
    rocketman
    Already, the Society has admitted for several years that the expected growth in the US and similar lands where the truth has been preached for some time are experiencing minimal growth, essentially nothing other than present family members of JWs (and my suspicion is that even these are coming in in less and less numbers as the youngsters are exposed to counter-JW information via the Net).

    As Oroborus21 pointed out, this is what I've observed. For about the past two decades, locally there's been minimal growth in terms of new, non-jw connected converts.

    Of course, that's just a local observation, but I think, from what I've read here in the past, in applies over the entire USA to varying degrees, and to many developed lands as well.

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