Iraq Al Qaeda link apparently is there

by Yerusalyim 61 Replies latest social current

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  Yerusalyim

  Fox News is putting out a report that the Senate Intelligence committee has a sixteen page memo detailing the links between Iraq and Al Qaeda going back BEFORE the first Gulf War. This includes Monies...Weapons...and training going to AQ, Atta meeting TWICE with Iraqi Intelligence (1994 and 2000), and a possible visit by UBL himself to Baghdad a few years back.

  It'll be interesting to see how this pans out...even more interesting to hear what the oppossers have to say if this all proves true...you know...the ones who keep saying there's no link between Iraq and A Q.
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  Gopher

  I wouldn't have a hard time believing that there are links between Al Qaeda and any nation that hates the USA and supports terrorism, including the pre-invasion Iraq.

  Does this prove that Iraq was involved in the 9/11/2001 attack on America? No.

  The war on Iraq was partly predicated on revenge against those involved in 9/11. Since the American coalition hasn't been able to catch Osama Bin Laden yet, it seemed that the American leadership shifted attention away from that and over to Iraq.

  Now if Bush administration had told us "hey we got to start the war on terrorism somewhere. Let's start with Iraq because of its links to terrorists, and also because they misrule their people," that would have been more honest. Instead we were told that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and was an "imminent" threat to the USA and the free world.

  I was not against the American invasion of Iraq. But I wish we had been told something closer to the real reason that we went there. (I don't believe all the real reasons we went there were wrong, quite the contrary. I just wish we had more information "up-front" from the government that we elected.)
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  Country Girl

  Good balanced post, Gopher. I think *all* of the Middle East states have ties to Al Quaeda, as it's a religion-based terroristic group, not ethnic or political, per se.

  CG
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  Simon

  Will it be like all the other dossiers and intelligence? ie. out of a cornflake packet !

  There were probably links between them at one point as they were both being armed and funded by the USA
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  Perry

  Instead we were told that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and was an "imminent" threat to the USA and the free world.

  Gopher, I thought the UN was the one who said that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Wasn't Saddaam refusing to account for them? That's the way I remember it.

  As far as your "imminent" threat quote, this came up on a talk show the other day and the person was unable to find the quote. I certainly don't remember it.

  I did find this though on townhall.com

  'Imminent threat' is revisionist spin
  Jonah Goldberg (archive)

  October 17, 2003 | Print | Send

  Jimmy Carter never used the word "malaise" in his "malaise speech." Abraham Lincoln never said, "God must have loved the common people, he made so many of them."

  And George W. Bush never said that the threat from Iraq was "imminent."

  He never said it. Seriously. Not once.

  Teams of rhetoric inspectors have been pouring over Bush's comments, utterances, speeches and gesticulations for about as long as we've been looking for WMD in Iraq and, to date, nobody has found a shred of proof that the president - or anybody in his Cabinet - ever once said Iraq or Saddam Hussein posed an "imminent" threat to the United States.

  In fact, one of the only good finds on this score actually says the complete opposite. In President Bush's State of the Union Address last January, he said:

  "Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late."

  This is important because the favorite talking point of Democrats and liberal pundits right now is that the president "lied" when he said that Iraq posed an "imminent threat."

  Yerusalim,

  Thanks for posting this. I'll be interested in the report as well. I have a question for you. Remember the terorist training camp with the jet passenger plane photographed in Iraq? What ever happened to that story? Was it not what it appeared to be?

  Just curioous if you know anything about it.

  Perry
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  freedom96

  I believe it is too early to say that there are no weapons of mass destruction. There is still much to do over there, and we still have to get Saddam. And we will.

  Saddam and the weapons could be anywhere.
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  observador

  Yerusalim,

  Iraq apparently had weapons of mass destruction,

  Iraq apparently was getting nuclear capabilites,

  Iraq apparently had something to do with 9/11,

  and now, Iraq apparently had links to Al Qaeda.

  Stop fooling yourself, Yerusalim. Whom do you think your wishful thinking will convince? Here? Come on!

  Observador.

  (how much do you wanna bet this thread will be locked?)
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  Stacy Smith

  Simon it wouldn't matter to you where the information was located. You wouldn't believe it.

  Did it hurt when you shut your mind?
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  lastcall

  Of course there are links between A Q and Iraq. There are links between dozens of counties (including the US) and A Q.

  The question is :

  Are there direct links, and what is the nature of those links? There may be in fact direct links between A Q and Iraq, but to date there has been no evidance of such.

  If there were, the Bush administration would have anxiously offered it up. Unfortunately, the info brought forth so far, in that reguard, has been well, wrong, and that has damaged our credibillity with the rest of the world.

  Reguardless of what is found from this day on, the sad fact is, our government was sold on an awlful lot of bad info. that turned out to be false or exaggerated.

  Reason? : Because when you look for things to support an argument your sold on, you become an easy sell.

  Anxiously waiting on this "New Light",

  LC
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  imallgrowedup

  Yerusalim,

  Thanks for posting this. I'll be interested in the report as well. I have a question for you. Remember the terorist training camp with the jet passenger plane photographed in Iraq? What ever happened to that story? Was it not what it appeared to be?

  Just curioous if you know anything about it.

  Perry

  I can't tell you how many people I have had to remind of this! The other damning piece of information that seems to escape some people is the fact that there is FILMED evidence of Muhammad Atta and an Iraqi diplomat meeting in Germany the summer just before 9/11. Yes, I want to know one way or the other if there was in fact a link between Iraq and Al Qaeda, but I am not going to think there was NO link and our government lied, when in fact, there is information available showing a link!

  Forgive me for asking this, but how many people who have been disfellowshipped when there were at least two pieces of information proving they shouldn't have been, believe that the US was wrong and should be condemned when there are at least two pieces of information which back up US claims of a connection? It is my most sincere hope that the answer to that question is "zero".