Iraq Al Qaeda link apparently is there (page 2)

lastcall

The other damning piece of information that seems to escape some people is the fact that there is FILMED evidence of Muhammad Atta and an Iraqi diplomat meeting in Germany the summer just before 9/11. Yes, I want to know one way or the other if there was in fact a link between Iraq and Al Qaeda, but I am not going to think there was NO link and our government lied, when in fact, there is information available showing a link!

Respectfully, although this is a link, this doesn't prove anything with reguard to Iraq being involved in 9/11.

Listen, for the Bush administration to establish a DIRECT link between the Iraqi government and what happened on 9/11, to the degree of providing aid or money or anything else, would be the equivilent of finding the "Holy Grail". It is what they deperately need to restore credibillity and provide unquestioned justification for the war.

If they had it, Bush would be giving a "state of the union" type speach and crowing about it right now. They don't have anything that couldn't be describe as soft and squishy.

Emotion has to be removed from this argument. If this were a criminal trial(concerning only the links to A Q) -- the case would be thrown out of court.

SixofNine

The other damning piece of information that seems to escape some people is the fact that there is FILMED evidence of Muhammad Atta and an Iraqi diplomat meeting in Germany the summer just before 9/11.

No there isn't. It won't be true the next time it gets passed off as damning information either.

imallgrowedup

Sixofnine,

I agree with an earlier poster who said something about how it would have been better if people were given a more accurate reason for going into Iraq. I don't like the fact that it appears as if the original "intelligence" was misleading, whether I support the war or don't support the war. But we can't wish away things that have been discovered, whether they were a part of the original justification for going in or not. A terrorist training camp with an American airplane was found in Iraq. And there is filmed evidence of Muhammad Atta meeting with an Iraqi diplomat in Germany just prior to 9/11. Whether these two pieces of verifiable information are direct evidence of an Iraqi/Al Qaeda link is still unknown, but I think both of these pieces of evidence shed enough doubt on the argument that there was NO link. For me to sit here and say that these two pieces of evidence PROVE a link is as inexcusable as someone else saying that there is NO link. We simply do not know one way or the other right now. The jury has not come back with the results.

http://www.praguepost.cz/news071101b.html

http://newsarchives.indiainfo.com/spotlight/usattacks/26atta.html

lastcall

For me to sit here and say that these two pieces of evidence PROVE a link is as inexcusable as someone else saying that there is NO link. We simply do not know one way or the other right now. The jury has not come back with the results

The burden of proof belongs to the accuser. When, and if , a direct link showing the government of Iraq was in anyway responsible for 9/11, that's when the accusations become credible. Until then it is only speculative, and in some cases wishfull thinking. One thing is for sure...

This administration nerver proved any direct link before we went to war. That is a problem that I have with them. They certainly tried to give the perception that they had proof, but they did not. Wether we should have gone in for other reasons of course is an entirely different debate.

Double Edge

Iraq apparently had weapons of mass destruction,
Iraq apparently was getting nuclear capabilites,
Iraq apparently had something to do with 9/11,
and now, Iraq apparently had links to Al Qaeda.

Yeah, Yeru.... and apparently the two buildings of the World Trade Center and their human occupants that were destroyed on September 11th by murderous religious fanatics who knew that the people who would initially be horrified would within a few short months lose their determination to rid the world of those b*st*rds.

SixofNine

And there is filmed evidence of Muhammad Atta meeting with an Iraqi diplomat in Germany just prior to 9/11.

No, there is not. It isn't any more true than the last time you repeated it. Let me be more clear; that is a falsehood.

DakotaRed

What's all the hubbub? We all know it is just another of the millions of lies by Bush and Blair in their quest to steal the wealth of the innocent Iraqis. Just one more lie to be added on top of the rest. It's been proven here, time and time again, that only liberal anti-war socialists are worthy of breathing the earth's air anyways.

Take the right wing scum out and shoot them down like dogs and let the rest live peacefully. Get rid of them and there will be no more problems anywhere in the world. Oh sure, you can try to reeducate them first, but believe me, they will end up having to be liquidated, just as Stalin and Mao did.

You just can't trust a right winged lying SOB bent on world domination as America has been ever since it stole the colony from England in 1776. Hell, right wingers would even have us believe they actually stepped in to help others during WW1 and WW2 when we all know it was their quest for total domination of Europe and Asia.

Total abandonment of the American military forces and total submission to the UN is the only real answer. Then, take all the accumulated wealth in the US and redistribute it where it will really do some good.

Yerusalyim

No one in the Bush Administration has said Iraq was involved in 9-11...having said that...there are direct links between Iraq and the FIRST attack on the WTC...hmmmm....further....it's becoming ever more clear that Iraq was funding and training AQ...that's MORE than enough to warrant what happened even if WMD are not found.

It'll be an interesting few months I think.

Double Edge

AMEN Dakota, amen.

imallgrowedup

LOL @ Dakota!

SixofNine -

Did you get an opportunity to view the links I posted? If so, can you help me understand why you say that Atta didn't meet with an Iraqi diplomat?

Last call -

The burden of proof belongs to the accuser. When, and if , a direct link showing the government of Iraq was in anyway responsible for 9/11, that's when the accusations become credible. Until then it is only speculative, and in some cases wishfull thinking. One thing is for sure...
This administration nerver proved any direct link before we went to war. That is a problem that I have with them. They certainly tried to give the perception that they had proof, but they did not. Wether we should have gone in for other reasons of course is an entirely different debate.

I'm kinda confused. You say the burden of proof belongs to the accuser. Aren't people who are accusing the US of being wrong to go into Iraq the accusers?

As far as your second paragraph goes, I couldn't agree with you more. As I stated earlier, I, too, am disappointed that the reasons before we went to war seem to be different than the reasons after the war started. If they can prove a direct link between Iraq and Al Qaeda, although it will be very important, unfortunately, I think it will prove to be very anti-climatic only because of all the doubt that has been shed on the whole operation.

growedup

Iraq Al Qaeda link apparently is there

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