I want to ask her out... (page 12)

larc

hey Dan, I guess your term is over, and I don't know if you will see her again, but if you do, tell her this: I do understand that you have a boy friend, but if the two of you break up, please give me a call. Always leave the door open. You never know what will happen. In the mean time, use your door-to-door Watchtower and Awake sales skills to find other women. "Many are called, but few are choosen." (From some place in the Bible.)

DanTheMan

Larc,

Actually last Monday's test was a midterm, the final isn't for another 2 or 3 weeks yet, so we still have a few class sessions left.

I may try to do what you said, but like I stated previously in this post I think this girl is probably out of my reach. Besides her looks, she has sort of a wealthy air about her (very nice clothes, professionally done hair, perfectly manicured nails, expensive looking purse). Not that I'm doing terribly, but I don't see a Lexus or a large house in the suburbs in my future. Women are so perceptive and intuitive, I think they take one look at a guy and know whether or not he's either making good money or will be someday.

One area of attracting the ladies that I think I could vastly improve in is my clothes. I would be a good candidate for "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" as I am clueless when it comes to fashion, decorating, etc.

Syrup and Stacy,

Well, if she wasn't such a big University of Michigan fan I might consider it. Plus being a 3 1/2 hour drive away from where I live doesn't lend itself well dating. Have you consulted Azzy on this topic??

Mulan

One area of attracting the ladies that I think I could vastly improve in is my clothes. I would be a good candidate for "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" as I am clueless when it comes to fashion, decorating, etc.

Dan, do you have a sister? Or maybe you have a friend who has a girlfriend, who would help you choose some clothes or find a look that is good for you. All the big stores have people that could help you too. Most beauty shops (men go to them too) have stylists that can do makeovers. Punk 2

You are a doll, in my opinion, but if you feel the need to "upgrade" your style, those are some suggestions, for what it's worth.

Stacy Smith

Have you consulted Azzy on this topic??

Of course not. Ask permission? Who are you kidding. Match makers don't do that. I think you guys may have similar politics. She's hot. Ummm good enough right?

Of course she may hate me now. Then again she may love me.

Getting made over can be a fun thing. I did it not long ago and got rid of my super long hair. Did a couple of makeup things and I feel like a new person. It really gives you confidence and we all know you can use some of that.

Be gentle sweet Azzy

Nosferatu

As we got out to the parking garage, I sprang it on her. "Do you think you'd like to do lunch sometime?"

She said she has a boyfriend.

You know what always amazes me? You NEVER told her that you wanted a date, you just said that you wanted to do lunch with her. She immediately took that as asking her out. You could have come back with "No, I didn't say I wanted to DATE you, I just wanted to get together with you for lunch.

Some women use the "boyfriend" line just as a test. They want to see if you'll back down immediately. Whenever I got this statement, I just start asking about their relationship, "Oh yeah, when are you guys getting married? How long have you been together?" Never let that stupid line kill your conversation with her.

I'm glad I tried though. It wasn't as hard as I thought. Of course I'm thinking that she doesn't really have a boyfriend and she was just saying that because she doesn't want to go out, which certainly is a possibility, but I don't know that so I hope that she really does and wasn't grossed out by my asking her.

Don't worry what she thinks. You've just accomplished something. You took the initiative to ask her. The more you do it, the easier it gets. Personally, I like to ask for the phone number first, and then set up a date over the phone. I make it look as if I don't care if they have a boyfriend. You never know what the situation is like if she does. She might be wanting to move on, but she's having a hard time letting go.

Remember, there's plenty of women out there. So what if she doesn't want to date you? She's the one losing out on a good time with you.

DanTheMan

Mulan and Stacy, I think a fashion makeover might do me some good, though I'm not aware of any such services for guys here in Cowlumbus Ohio. There probably is, I'll check around. I work with a guy who thinks he's such a metrosexual, he makes fun of my pleated pants and docksider shoes (which I don't wear anymore).

Nos, you are way more aggressive in these matters than I am, which seems to work for you, but if I ask a girl if she wants to have lunch with me and she responds by telling me that she has a boyfriend, that's as far as I'm willing to push it. I'm not an alpha, nor do I aspire to be, I'd just like to find a lovely lady to get to know well and see where it goes.

SixofNine

Dan, I love ya, but I just want to beat you with a tree limb sometimes.

Quit using this experience as a way to cut yourself down. You smiled at a pretty woman. She smiled back. You knew there was a damn good chance she had a boyfriend. You knew that for any number of reasons, there was a damn good chance you'd experience rejection once again. You asked her out anyway. That isn't easy.

This isn't really about her, or whether she would ever go out with a guy like you... there simply is no way to know that one way or the other. It's about you, and you should feel proud that you overcame your fear, took a chance, and asked her out.

And while you're feeling good about that, feel good about the fact that she was at least somewhat attracted to you, as evidenced by her exchanging genuine smiles with you on more than one occasion. Doesn't mean she wants to have your children, but it's proof that she had at least some attraction.

Take some satisfaction and move on.

Nosferatu

if I ask a girl if she wants to have lunch with me and she responds by telling me that she has a boyfriend, that's as far as I'm willing to push it.

Dan, I used to be very much the same way. I found myself continually dateless. Then I'd start thinking things like "Oh, I must be ugly, I look like a geek, no woman wants me" etc. I got tired of failure. I wanted at least some success. Also, don't be afraid to actually make friends with women. Women have friends and there may be some single ones. If anything, I'd suggest making some female friends so you'll get used to women. Hang out with them, bullshit with them, do things that friends do.

I'm not an alpha, nor do I aspire to be, I'd just like to find a lovely lady to get to know well and see where it goes.

Hell, I wouldn't call myself alpha. I used to be incredibly timid and shy. It wasn't getting me anywhere. The thing I really had to realize is that women are just other human beings. They eat, sleep fart, belch, and shit like any other human being. Do I really need to be intimidated by them just because they're good looking? I'll tell you something else, the romance stuff doesn't do any good until you're actually in a relationship.

If you quit focusing on romancing a woman and focus more on having a good time with some chick, you'll get a lot farther. I dated one girl named Michelle, had dark skin, dark hair, but striking bright green eyes. Damn she was good looking! I dated her for a total of 3 weeks.

For our first date, I took her to a karaoke bar. I could tell she was bored there and losing interest in me, so I took her to a real dump of a karaoke bar (which was my regular hangout). I walked in and was greeted by every woman there. Jealousy definately works to your advantage! Anyway, she bought me a beer, payed for the pool games, and I didn't even have to try for a kiss when she left. I went home with a stunning blonde at the end of the night.

I took her to a second hand store for our second date. All we did was look at the ugly, out of date clothes. Afterwards, we went for a bite at Burger King. All I cared about was having a good time. If she didn't want to have fun, that's her problem. She wasn't going to spoil my good time. I teased the shit out of her. I didn't even have to try for a kiss

For our third date, she invited me over to watch a movie. I have no clue what the movie was about because I was too busy tickling her and beaning her over the head with her pillows. After I dumped her (she was flaky), she continued to call me for 2 months afterward.

The biggest problem with most guys is that they try too hard. They focus way too much on impressing a woman with romance rather than having just good ol' fun. I've bagged many more women by having fun as opposed to romancing them. If you make a date fun, the activity that you do won't matter. This is why my "candlelit Happy Meal" idea would work.

Good luck on your next venture.

DanTheMan

They eat, sleep fart, belch, and shit like any other human being

NO THEY DON'T!!!!! I am sure that the girl in my class doesn't crap, there's no way something as beautiful as that produces turds. Stop trying to fool me into thinking that women are anything less than magical, mystical beings! LOL

logansrun

I don't think continuence of this thread will be very productive for your love life, Dan. Stop putting yourself down! Stop the "sighs"! Dude, you're even getting me down.

B.

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