I want to ask her out... (page 7)

Xena

lol nos if you expect life to be totally fair or equal you are in for a disappointment cause it isn't...Personally I am not an "equal" rights person....nothing can ever be equal because no one is totally equal..but that's another post for another thread Bottom line...you don't wanna buy...don't... lol no one is forcing you to...

logan I would think you of all people would know better than to judge the entire person based on their online posting persona....but I can understand venting...I have been known to do it a bit myself

Dan hopes it works out for you, keep us posted will ya??? Inquiring minds wanna know!

larc

Well Dan, I have read all of the comments and much of it is good advice. I would like to add my thoughts. Many have advised you to be your self. Now, if you have problems with that because you are dealing with a pretty woman, I would suggest that you talk to her like you do your guy friends. No, I don't mean that you should discuss Ohio State football or a plumbing problem at your house. What I mean is that you talk to her like she is a real person, not a set of nice tits. As you well know, I spent an afternoon at your house and I know that you are a good talker. So, you needn't worry about that. As they say, just be yourself. You have a good mind. Now, if you could sell Watchtowers, which have much customer resistence, I am sure that you can sell yourself. Another thing, there are two kinds of hotties. There are those who don't know they are hotties and have their own insecurities, just like you. The other type of hottie, knows they are hot. You do not want to have anything to do with this type of hottie. You will find out soon, the category within which she belongs. Now regarding your first date. I would not ask her for one yet. As I understand it, you have helped her with her math home work. I would continue to do this for awhile. It will give you both a chance to know each other, and it will give time to understand how brilliant you are. Now regarding appearance. She is a hottie, and you don't think you are. I remember a long time ago the Theocratic Ministry School Servent in his public talk on marriage said the following, "men are attracted to what they see; women are attracted to what they hear." Talk to her sympatheticly, but most importantly, listen to her and care about what she says.

Nosferatu

lol nos if you expect life to be totally fair or equal you are in for a disappointment cause it isn't.

I've been disappointed many times Xena. The dating scene can be pretty damn evil, so I had to learn how to deal with it. I was able to filter out the crap and go for the decent women. I also didn't take it too harshly when a woman would flake out on me. Toss her phone number and get 10 more LOL!

The point that I was making was about society in general. Women are portrayed as "beautiful creatures in need of worshipping" and men are "money machines". Then equal rights come into the scene. What a mess. Unfortunately, the way men and women are portrayed doesn't work in the real world. It's much better to find what works than what society expects.

Nosferatu

I had to highlight the points that larc made:

Now, if you have problems with that because you are dealing with a pretty woman, I would suggest that you talk to her like you do your guy friends. No, I don't mean that you should discuss Ohio State football or a plumbing problem at your house. What I mean is that you talk to her like she is a real person, not a set of nice tits.

Another thing, there are two kinds of hotties. There are those who don't know they are hotties and have their own insecurities, just like you. The other type of hottie, knows they are hot. You do not want to have anything to do with this type of hottie.

The "other type" of hotties are fun to piss off. These are the women who have nice moustaches, clothes my grandma wears, natural hair color ruined from dye, a cute crooked tooth, etc.

cruzanheart

It's near impossible to turn a friendship into a relationship.

Hmmm, so either Big Tex and I have achieved the impossible or we've been living a lie for 20 years. We started as friends. We are still friends.

Nina

WhyNow2000

I am with Nosferatu...I agree with most of the things he said.

Most of my first dates are after 9pm at a bar/grill. All of you who are SNAGs (Sensitive New Age Guys) who take a girl to a fancy restaurant and try to impress her, she is pressed how nice you are. But you won't close the deal because she doesn?t want to hurt your "feeling" the morning after a night of carnal fun. When she says she has to meet up later with her girl friends or that she has to go to bed because she has to wake up early, she is telling you: "I don?t want to go home with you." The truth is, she is meeting up with guys like me; who are comfortable being alpha male.

I know the can of worms is getting bigger and bigger.

dolphman

Don't say any "lines". Ask her out for coffee and to study at the same time. Go to the starbucks or something. If that goes well. Ask her out on a more real "date". Take that one easy to.

IF a girl likes you "in that way" believe me you'll know. If not, you're still hanging out with a hot chick and that is a PLUS any way you slice it.

But if you like her, you'll show her just by being forward and assertive by asking her out. You don't really need to tell her how much you like her or anything on the first couple of dates. It's obvious you do or else you wouldn't be taking her out on a date. Girls don't like desperation, so don't make it seem like you're suffereing from that.

If all else fails, show her YOUR BIG PENIS. That'll get her attention right away. You can skip all the bullshit and get strait to the good stuff.

ballistic

I find the subject of who pays an interesting one in it's own right. I have been out with women who do and women who don't. Perhaps because I naturally like independant professional women, it is no coincidence that those who insisted on paying turned out to be relationship material, whereas I have been out with some real pansies who stood there looking stupid when the bill came, and I was immediately turned off. I don't have any rule, I just wait to see what happens, and take note, it's not about money.

Nosferatu

Hmmm, so either Big Tex and I have achieved the impossible or we've been living a lie for 20 years. We started as friends. We are still friends.

That's good to hear Cruzanheart! Notice I said "near" impossible. I've done it as well, but I've heard many stories from guys who have never been able to accomplish this.

DanTheMan

HOLY TOLEDO!!!! 4 pages! A record for one of my threads. And a mild flame war to boot!!!

Sorry it took me so long to get back to this, I didn't have a chance to go online this morning, and I don't come here when I'm at work.

I didn't go to class tonight, which means I won't see her until this Monday, and that night we are having a midterm. So I'm thinking about finishing the midterm and then going over it until she's done, that way we'll leave the class at the same time, and I will approach her then. I had a crap day today at work, my boss's boss ripped me a new one over something, and my confidence is pretty shaky right now.

nos & whynow, I wish I knew what your secrets are, you seem to have the whole women thing down to a T. It's a big mystery to me. I feel like "what the hell would they ever see in me?" Honestly though, I do think I may be aiming a little too high with this girl. She's not the Pamela Anderson bombshell type, she dresses pretty conservatively, but beautiful eyes, great auburn hair, great bod. I'm pretty average, not a stud that women throw themselves at or anything.

larc, thanks for the confidence boost. I won't try to talk to her about OSU football.

Once again, thank you all for your input.

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