Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? (page 20)

Beth Sarim

''Watch out for 'new light(tm)' because we know the WBT$ spies read things on this forum.''

Perhaps these WT 'spies' even post on here in cognito. you never know. Maybe thats already obvious.

Jeffro

‘scholar’:

It is much the same with Jonsson's explanation which you have either directly or indirectly copied.

Luckily for you this continued libel is trivial. 😂

scholar

Jeffro

Luckily for you this continued libel is trivial.

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Let me put it this way, your views on this subject are similar or identical to that of Carl Jonsson and other critics.

scholar JW

Jeffro

It is entirely mundane that two or more people saying something correct will say similar things.

Maybe ‘scholar’ can only get correct answers by copying. 😂 As far as neo-Babylonian chronology is concerned, he’s yet to provide any. He should stop copying from the dumb WTS kid next to him.

I’m sorry that you’re too stupid to count back 70 years from Darius’ 4th year (518BCE). And I know you might struggle with the fact that 587-518 is a span of 70 years. I guess ‘pretty charts’ can only do so much for people with your inadequacies

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It is certainly true that if you count back from 518 to 587 you have a duration of 70 years but according to your website you state "The period of denunciation ran from the destruction of the temple in 587 BCE to near its completion" - the temple was completed in 515 BCE. However, Zech 1: 12; 7:5 clearly show that the context or timing of the oracle was in Darius' 2nd and 4th years and has nothing to do with an end of the 70 years. If it was in the 4th year- 518 BCE then why was avision received two years earlier. Did the period have two endings? Was there two separate 70 years beginning at the same time but ending two years apart?

Your thesis along with that of Jonsson makes no sense at all.

scholar JW

Jeffro

‘scholar’:

If it was in the 4th year- 518 BCE then why was avision received two years earlier.

Pointless misdirection indicating you don’t understand this type of literature. The author wasn’t writing a diary as it happened. It was all written later. The ‘vision’ is a narrative device framing the purpose of the period - that had not yet ended in early 519BCE - as ‘denunciation’. Chapter 7 is quite clear about the timing of when 70 years of fasting were reached.

the temple was completed in 515 BCE

I correctly state on that page that it was near rather than in the year the temple was completed. I also clearly state, as does Zechariah, that 70 years of fasting is reached in Darius’ 4th year. None of this is particularly difficult. I suppose I could simply omit the part about the temple as it seems to confuse some of the dimmer readers.

scholar

Jeffro

It is entirely mundane that two or more people saying something correct will say similar things.

Maybe ‘scholar’ can only get correct answers by copying. 😂 As far as neo-Babylonian chronology is concerned, he’s yet to provide any. He should stop copying from the dumb WTS kid next to him.

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But coincidences do raise suspicions as to the source of such similar things.

Scholar does not need to copy but does the research, reads what others say even opposing views and carefully considers scholarship on the subject. NB Chronology is falsified by Jeremiah's and Zechariah's seventy years and the fact of the Jewish Exile of 70 years. I am unaware of any dumb WTS kid next to him but I find it strange that all of Jeffro's website is all about trying to critique so-called dumb WT Chronology.

scholar JW

scholar

Jeffro

Pointless misdirection indicating you don’t understand this type of literature. The author wasn’t writing a diary as it happened. It was all written later. The ‘vision’ is a narrative device framing the period of ‘denunciation’. Chapter 7 is quite clear about the timing of when 70 years of fasting were reached.

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Yes the author was writing a diary as at the beginning of chapters 1 and 7 he gives the time as to when he received the oracle or vision on each occasion then narrates to refers to the past 70 years and current situation with an inquiry about a future relief. Both chapters are quite clear that the 70 years was a past event with a known beginning and end, unlike your thesis which amounts to an unclear end for Zechariah's 70-year period of indignation.

scholar JW

Jeffro

🤦‍♂️

scholar

Jeffro

I correctly state on that page that it was near rather than in the year the temple was completed. I also clearly state, as does Zechariah, that 70 years of fasting is reached in Darius’ 4th year. None of this is particularly difficult.

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Being 'near' is not good enough for it raises ambiguity. Zechariah does not say that the 70 years of fasting is reached in Darius' 4th year but only that he received the vision in that year referring to 70 years in the past. That is your problem.

scholar JW

Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

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