Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? (page 23)

BruceX

When you think about it, in 1925 this was considered spiritual food at the right time. You were supposed to believe it otherwise you were spiritually weak.

Ding

<< Rutherford was noted to have said afterward about his own predictions of 1925 as FDS: “I know I made an ass of myself”- WT-10/1/1984- pg.24. >>

That didn't seem to deter him.

Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self–appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning–yes, they are foolish, fleshly thinking.

So Rutherford, acting as FDS, was one of them. He made an ass of himself as he said.

Jeffro

‘scholar’:

in fact, one passage was addressed to an 'exiled people' thus it is well proved that the 70 years was a period of exile.

The apologist quietly ignores the fact that the passage in question (Jeremiah 29) refers to a letter written 7 years prior to Jerusalem’s destruction to people already exiled in Babylon, so it would be meaningless to tell them they would be in Babylon for 70 years starting from some unstated future event. 😂 Perhaps the silly apology shouldn’t highlight such obvious low hanging fruit. 🤦‍♂️

BruceX

The apologist quietly ignores the fact that the passage in question (Jeremiah 29) refers to a letter written 7 years prior to Jerusalem’s destruction to people already exiled in Babylon, so it would be meaningless to tell them they would be in Babylon for 70 years starting from some unstated future event. 😂 Perhaps the silly apology shouldn’t highlight such obvious low hanging fruit.

And according to WT some were more than 70 years in exile like Daniel. So when they returned, how can one say they all returned from a 70 years exile?

scholar

Jeffro

What a load of drivel. 😂 Basically, what he means is you have to pretend the verses don’t mean what they actually say because mommy Watch Tower says they ‘really’ mean something else. 🤦‍♂️ And he doesn’t even understand that he’s an Adventist.

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Nope. You just read the texts, their context then you can do research if necessary which includes other commentaries and other Bible aids. Alternatively, you can also consult WT publications to get a more accurate understanding of matters.

scholar JW

Jeffro

‘Scholar’:

Alternatively, you can also consult WT publications to get a more accurate understanding of matters.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

scholar

Jeffro

The apologist quietly ignores the fact that the passage in question (Jeremiah 29) refers to a letter written 7 years prior to Jerusalem’s destruction to people already exiled in Babylon, so it would be meaningless to tell them they would be in Babylon for 70 years starting from some unstated future event. 😂 Perhaps the silly apology shouldn’t highlight such obvious low hanging fruit. 🤦‍♂️

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The letter by Jeremiah was addressed to an already exiled people later joined by others who now formed the Exile proper of 70 years just as the case with Ezekiel 1:1 which facts establish the simple fact that the 70 years was the Jewish Exile thus the Exile and its message of future liberation would have been a message of comfort for the now exiled population.

scholar JW

Jeffro

🤦‍♂️

scholar

Jeffro

And according to WT some were more than 70 years in exile like Daniel. So when they returned, how can one say they all returned from a 70 years exile?

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Now the biblical fact of the 70-year exile is troubling for Jeffro who is unable to reconcile the simple fact of the first deportation followed by the second deportation, ten years later would somehow be viewed as a composite Exile of 70 years duration with a precise beginning and end.

scholar JW

Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

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