Has Anyone Gotten Disfellowshipped Here and For What??

by minimus 56 Replies latest jw friends

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  Anna Marina

  Nitty-Gritty

  This is me interviewing the sister who got disfellowshipped for asking the elders about child abuse. Her name is Christine - she did nothing wrong. She is a genuine Christian who was concerned about wrong doing. Her conscience was troubled by the thought that she was part of an organisation that was covering over child abuse.
  

  My view is that the screws are being tightened. Anyone seriously questioning the GB, their integrity and identity, is being put under pressure to neither listen to criticism nor express criticism of them. Those who are not afraid to express the concerns they have about the GB are removed.
  

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqoSR4ZdKPU&t=1s
  
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  minimus

  So they remove so called apostates.
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  Anna Marina

  Yes and you have to ask apostate to what?

  By WT's standards Jehovah is the biggest apostate closely followed by Jesus Christ.

  And if you get df'd for sticking to God's Word - you can only return IF you repent.

  According to J Schnell who wrote 30 Years a Watchtower Slave they only use a very small percentage of the Bible on which to base their doctrine. You question the way they have cobbled together their values, identity and authority and you are out.
  
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  Doctor Who

  I have a friend who was DF'd for saying her husband was abusing her (physical and mental). She separated from him, kept up the allegations, and was warned if she kept talking about it she would be reproved. After a year of this, it was announced she was "no longer a JW". She has subsequently informed me it was because of her not keeping quiet. She is now divorced 'scriptuallly' because she was seen 'spending the night' at a friends house because she was having a nervous breakdown. He is now remarried, abusing another poor sister.
  
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  Anna Marina

  One who used to be in an Italian congregation told me about a sister who's husband was very cruel to her. He was being groomed to be an elder. So the other elders protected him.
  

  The sister turned to the elders for support but they gaslighted her - effectively telling her she was imagining it all, she was not perceiving things correctly.
  

  She was not allowed to talk about it. But the one from Italy told me that her eyes kept looking at him pleading, yearing and in earnest as if saying 'these people are mad.'

  He did not know how to help her. He was still new to it all, and did not stay for very long. But he recognized that look. He knew something was seriously wrong.
  

  To this day the memory of her eyes remain with him. She killed herself.
  
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  Clarkey

  So they remove so called apostates.

  You bet, exposing the lies and apostasy by the top JWS leaders will get you pointed and booted out quickly.

  Even if you used the words of Jesus Christ scripturaly from the bible .
  
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  minimus

  The elders and Governing Body are responsible for all the lives that have been ruined by their policies
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  Anna Marina

  Yes they are guilty. The final talk I went to was about how being in the 'truth' (cough, splutter) is like being on the Orient Express.

  But, in Agatha Christie's book, The Orient Express, all on board were murderers.

  Guilt by association. If you are in it you are supporting it. My suggestion - get off at the next stop.
  
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  slimboyfat

  Why did they say being in the truth is like being on the Orient Express?
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  Anna Marina

  Because there are several ways of getting to Venice on the Orient Express. So, say you go by the route of being a pioneer or an elder, missionary, Bethel worker, Governing Body member or whatever - you are prominent. Therefore, you get to Venice being prominent.
  

  But not everyone can do these things. If you cannot do these things, you have to get to Venice by a different route. You'll get there ok but you'll have to clean the toilets. That's the other route, the toilet cleaning route. If you don't get to clean the toilets, don't worry there's plenty of other non-prominent tasks that'll get you to Venice.

  They put a map up showing the two different routes.