by buzkid 27 Replies latest watchtower scandals
Sea breeze
If people keep preaching how great and important this jesus is, asking for evidence is not being a troll ,I have asked you many times to provide proof that he existed and your the one who has failed to provide any .
So provide independently verified evidence or just admit it's a matter of faith on your part and truth and facts don't matter.
Eric makes some excellent videos, as the lady stated, on the pitfalls of becoming a Witness & some of the worst aspects of Watchtower's controlling & abusive behaviour.
It's a pity if he too has become another controlling religious leader, believing himself an authority over someone else's conscience?
Erics content has gone towards focusing on " his " ideology.
Touchofgrey – “The four gospels were written by unknown authors many decades after the so called events so not eyewitness accounts.”
This is my last response, because I see we have gone off topic. When my husband was in his late 50’s he began writing his autobiography/work manual on his environmental career from the time he was 17. Throughout his account he mentioned people that he worked with, and what he and they accomplished together. It was his “eyewitness” account of not only his activities, but those involved with him and included very detailed descriptions from the age of 17 until he retired. (He had a photographic memory) For those people interested in the same career as he had, should they dismiss his history, his experience, his knowledge and the experience of all who worked with him? I doubt they would, and possibly would put faith in his experience and expertise to teach them what not only he knew, but what he failed at. Only people not interested in his work field would disregard his account. They wouldn’t be drawn to it.
To say that the disciples, apostles who were with Christ, who worked with Christ, witnessed his miracles, were motivated by the Spirit of Christ ( including Paul), and who then wrote down their accounts of time with him “decades after”…
…to say that they were not “eyewitnesses” of the life of Jesus when living at the same time, just doesn’t add up.
But faith is involved as well as interest - in the life of Christ, and the desire to learn from his words and the accounts by the apostles.
One doesn’t need an accolade, or a university degree created by men, or a claim to fame bestowed on him by men… someone living at the same time as Christ, to then have his account of the life of Christ suddenly become believable.
You don’t appear to have an interest in Jesus Christ, which is your choice. I accept that. Many people do though, because they believe the accounts written down by men who walked with him during his life on earth. I guess you might consider accepting that, and be at peace.
Galatians 1:10-12 - “Am I trying to win over human beings or God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I wouldn’t be Christ’s slave. 11 Brothers and sisters, I want you to know that the gospel I preached isn’t human in origin. 12 I didn’t receive it or learn it from a human. It came through a revelation from Jesus Christ.”
John 8:45,54-58 - Because I speak the truth, you don’t believe me.
Jesus answered, “If I glorify myself, my glory is meaningless. My Father, who you say is your God, is the one who glorifies me. 55 You don’t know him, but I do. If I said I didn’t know him, I would be like you, a liar. But I do know him, and I keep his word. 56 Your father Abraham was overjoyed that he would see my day. He saw it and was happy.”
57 “You aren’t even 50 years old!” the Jewish opposition replied. “How can you say that you have seen Abraham?”
58 “I assure you,” Jesus replied, “before Abraham was, I Am.”
Mark was written about AD66 -70
Matthew and Luke around AD 85-90
John AD90-100
As the average life expectancy was about 40-45 .
So biblical scholars hold that they were written by anonymous authors and not written by eyewitness.
Erics stuff now sucks.
I really enjoyed Eric's videos and his book which I came across last year, he opened my eyes wide to the WT frauds, and for that I am grateful.
I never found their online meetings helpful, its still much the same as a boring JW meeting, no depth at all.
The recent videos have become very dogmatic, I spoke out about one of them and he wasn't happy with my responses, and I have quit listening to any of his other stuff, I had set up a WhatsApp group for some of us zoomers who wanted proper association but I seem to have been, whats the word....oh, shunned from that group, lol.
Actually,,, their online & any meeting content is like grade 2
Infantilized
And governing body praise. Faithful slave praise
