How Do You View Men , Women and Children?? (page 4)

minimus

Hi Bisous, Thanks for your input. See, I was nice.

I should have also added that my views aren't entirely rational...but driven from being an ex-JW ...logically i know there are many great guys out there....my hang-ups which I am trying put aside. Maybe finding this site and a place to air all this craziness will help.

thanks for posing the question and tolerating my feedback.

Panda

Everyone I know and love I also know how far to trust them. I mean heck you don't have to be a paragon of virtue for me to love you. But then I have certain issues which make me walk the other way, child molestors, abusive spouses or partners.

As for gender and age. I really like kids. I enjoy conversations with informed adults. And old folks amaze me. Gender, I especially appreciate women. I adore one man.

outbutnotdown

I read a book while I was on my way out of the JW org. that stated that children are perfect when they are born. While I do think that perfection is a false hope and that it is completely impossible due to the laws of relativity in our wonderful universe, it did encourage me to look at my children in as positive a light as possible and WAS A LOT BETTER THAN LOOKING AT MYKIDS AS NEEDING TO BE IN SUBJECTION TO ME!!!!!!!!!

My children (and all other children and women and men), just want to be loved and accepted, right? How far we stray from the simplicities of life when we look to outside forces to tell us how to understand these simple desires.

Peace................ Brad

Lost Diamond

This is what I think.....

In The Garbage

JUST KIDDING!!!!!......

wednesday

As far as who makes the "final" decision, that would depend on what it is about. My hubby and i have areas were we both excel. We sort of pick the areas we are good at and deal with those issues. Example, i pay the bills, and keep him up to date b/c i'm just better at this than he is. I tend to let him make the final decision on vacations b/c i have no clue where i would like to go and he is great with maps an likes to find all the museums. we somehow manage.

I have had more male friends than female, but the female friends i have have lasted longer than the men. Women are often not very understanding to another women.(just my personal feeling) But as far as who i let make decisions for me, ie doctors and such, i trust a female as much as a man.

Undecided

When you look at nature and animals what do you see? Does this indicate how humans should act in their society? After all didn't God design it all? Just kidding!

Ken P.

franklin J

This is an interesting topic.

For the first time in history, women are on an equal footing with men ( or very close to it) in society, (or to avoid that JW inferred meaning to that word0 ; in contemporary culture. While there may still be a "glass ceiling" in some areas of the business world, the female species has become a true equal to the male( not a "complement to" , as I was taught as a JW). Women can bring home the bacon, be presidents and executives of corporations ; firemen; policeman and do things that only a man would be doing a generation ago.

On that note, it is interesting to see how many women "subject" themselves in the WTBTS. Why? What insecurites do they deal with which drive them to that position? And if you try to tell them this in a rational way, as I did with a savvy elders wife after I had left, I was told " because that is how Jehovah wants it".

I like to think that my marriage is a truly equal arrangement. While my wife was a career girl when I married her ( she was not-never was- a JW) she is a stay at home mom, by choice.( my better half may have other thoughts about this) But I fully consider her my equal in all things, especially any and all decisions relating to our home and children, and of course, how the money is budgeted and spent. I admit that I think she is smarter than me ( well, in some things, I might excel just a little) . But I know as a JW, I would not think this way.

And that is very disturbing to me.

As for children; all I can think of is GIFT. My children are like the "icing on the cake". And my wife and I consider them the smiling focus of our lives. Their health; well being and education is the driving force in our current little "nucleur family". Our lives consist of homework, soccer, dance, music, preschool, PTA...all voluntary; and you have got to love it because it takes over your life....my childhood consisted of going door to door and bible studies...BIG difference. It is wonderful to see children smile and laugh., and actually having fun as they grow up.

Frank

fearnotruth22

It is funny that according to wt teaching women should be in subjection and even sis should be led by bros as wives, but that is not how the women in the org carry themselves at all. That is only a facade shown by those in office for others the cong see, but it is a joke, as womw rule in the cong as they also rule in their home.

It is noteworthy that in the cong there is a struggle for power also to be higher in the pecking order. In my opinion reepect and subjection that may seem in the org towards one another is hypocrisy, as the dominant motivation is the desire to rule in one way or another in the org, and gossip.

I never view myself superior to anyone because of age or gender. I listen help respect all. BUt I wwill not tolerate bolony from anyone. Elder or child or wonan. I will nothave anything to do with an individual that does not respect me. Some young bro in the cong that thelders like so much but that bro in my opinion may be a jerk with his head in the clouds and would fare better if he was only nice with people instead of being obnoxious

To make a long story short. People should know their place. And if someone that does not have a gun in his hand does not show me respect that person can take a flying leap. Whoever he or she is.

stillajwexelder

I was only being obedient/obeying orders -- tha age old cry of those who perpertrate the vilest of crimes - -NAZI officers said this at Nuremberg --- so a JW saying he was "only obeying orders" -- obedient to the org above all --well I see very little difference

How Do You View Men , Women and Children??