Interesting that the other cult-cousins are going thru nearly identical hemmoraging of members.....

by WingCommander 51 Replies latest jw friends

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  LongHairGal

  WING COMMANDER:

  Another excellent thread!.. I also do not believe the Witnesses have 8 million members now.. Maybe at some point in the past they did!

  I believe all religions are seeing a decline as the world has become more secular. . Also, part of the reason I think is many people don’t want to live by any sexual morality code!.. There, I said it.

  As far as those other religions that have eerie similarities to the JWs, any Witness who sees these similarities in the religions (Mormons, SDAs, etc.) should wake up!… I know it made me angry when I first saw this years ago. I also asked myself whether they literally do use a similar playbook and who dreamed it up??

  How insulting to everyone’s intelligence!
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  Beth Sarim

  There's nothing like it.

  Nothing like it at all.

  Ruining a beautiful summer day. Which you'll never,,ever,,ever get back.

  To sit in some assembly hall or kh all day. Where you feel at odds with people & they feel at odds with you.

  That summer day is gone. Never get it back.

  To think you could have been at the beach,,golfing,,bicycling...hiking..
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  Vidiot

  I don’t think it has much to do with sexuality.

  It’s just easier these days to reject something you can’t subscribe to, especially belief systems that have a poor track record.
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  Atlantis

  In one video at Watchtower Headquarters they admitted that they didn't even know how many Kingdom Halls they had, and they also admitted that the numbers on the JW website were false.

  If they don't even know how many Kingdom Halls they had, then how in the hell can they claim 8 million JW's are active? Perhaps they are using numbers from their memorials, but, no one is going to make me believe there are 8 million active JW's on this planet.

  Maybe at one time there were, but not after COVID-19.

  Grandpa!
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  Phizzy

  An excellent and very encouraging Post, thanks WingCo !

  Mere numbers mean nothing, what they cannot show is the vast numbers of PIMOS there HAVE to be in all the Cults.

  Once cults start to go down in the number of true believers in their Bullshit, the downward spiral accelerates.
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  ThomasMore

  Grandpa Atlantis - thanks for all you do mate!

  I think that they say they are unsure about how many KHs they have because:

  1) Some KHs in foreign lands are homes where pubs meet - not dedicated KHs

  2) They are selling so many so quickly that the number from day to day is different

  3) They leverage KHs for loans used for operating expenses and to pay CSA settlements, so technically the bank owns them :)

  It is a moving target that they view as semi-liquid assets. They are not emotionally attached to the KHs like the publishers who built them, paid for them, maintained them, and worshipped in them.
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  Beth Sarim

  Its been said that the "cults" need it's members way more than the members need "cults".

  The victims or um members,, are only pawns for the cults. Thats why you see the Borg & other such high control groups clamping down on information control,,,who they associate with & marry.

  When cult victims realize the religion is a ''lie"",, well there goes that member,,,the free labor & yes ultimately $$$$$ is lost. Potential lossess.

  Religion is only a front. To a tax free business model. The Borgs & other such groups can never accept this kind of critical thinking.
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  Vidiot

  Phizzy - “…Mere numbers mean nothing…”

  This.

  It took me a while before I finally figured that out… that it doesn’t matter how many alleged members adherents the WTS claims.

  If they’re just warming seats, tuning out on Zoom, fibbing about their activity, living as they please without quaking in fear of being disfellowshipped removed, or - most importantly - closing their wallets (either because they’re PIMO or broke as shit)…

  …any numbers the WT claims are essentially irrelevant.
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  Beth Sarim

  Closed wallets & people not giving money....is what matters.
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  Vidiot

  That, and loss of “charity” status, lest we forget.