homosexuality

by wilton 45 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  Gretchen956

  And it wouldn't hurt to marry someone of the opposite sex either.

  This just shows (in my humble opinion) how silly they are. Being married does not make you not gay. I know of someone that is gay and pretty open to casual sex. He is visited all the time by married men who just want sex and no relationship because they're married. These guys are from all over the US and when they're in town they look him up (he's in his mid 50s now). They are married because of the stigma that to this day comes with being gay, and many of them are corporate execs, or have government positions. To visit him descretely (sp?) won't cause the gossip it would at home.

  Being a JW doesn't automatically "cure" you, nor will armeggedon cure anyone either for that matter. And, karma tells me that most of the JWs won't make it either. Because they fail by their own criteria. The list of things that can get you killed at Armeggedon is quite extensive. Homosexuality is only one on the list.

  The things that will get most of them are: lying, judging others, gossip <---- that one is HUGE among the congregations and circuits (even Bethel) of the JWs., .........not to mention the bigger things like child molestation, aiding and abetting child molestation, harrassment of innocent victims of child molestation, spousal and child abuse (hitting and beating), loss of life from the blood policy, I could go on and on.

  Like the group says, you should RUN.

  Gretchen
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  Joker10

  Big Tex, I should have added that homesexual tendencies will not be a problem in the new system, just like many problems people face today, according to them.
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  SLOAN

  Welcome Wilton,

  Hope you get the answers you need. You will gain lots of support here on the forum. Take care!!
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  quill

  Hi

  This is my first comment and my first time on this forum. As you have already heard Jehovah's Witnesses will not tolerate practicing gay's within their organization. Like me they will be disfellowshipped.
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  Nikita

  Hi quill! Welcome to the forum!

  Nikita
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  Narkissos

  Welcome Quill!
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  Gretchen956

  Nice to have you here, Quill! Welcome!

  Gretchen
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  SanFranciscoJim

  But they also believe that gay men and woman can be happy without engaging in homosexual acts. JWs believe that in the near future Christ will transform this Earth finally into Paradise where it will be free of evil and only Jehovah's worshippers will be there.

  Belief does not equal fact. JWs have believed that Armageddon was to come in 1914, 1915, 1935, and 1975, and it failed to materialize on all those dates. Just because a religion tells you what to believe does not make it so.

  Among its members, theres also gay people.

  There are individuals within the JW religion who identify themselves as gay but who choose to remain celibate. In the vast majority of cases, these individuals have chosen to remain deeply closeted within the JW religion because of the extreme shunning practices of the faith. They simply cannot bear the thought of losing contact with their families. They live in terror of being found out, ostracized, expelled, and shunned. Some lead horribly paranoid double lives. Others live in quiet desperation, hoping that they will be "cured" of their sexuality after the Armageddon that never comes. Sadly, some are even driven to suicide.
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  Mysterious

  Big Tex, I should have added that homesexual tendencies will not be a problem in the new system, just like many problems people face today, according to them.

  Please show me from the Bible where it says the God will cure homosexual tendencies in paradise. Or show me where homosexual tendencies were part of the curse on the human race after adam and eve were thrown out of eden. Or show me that the bible even mentions homosexual tendencies at all. You can't. Because "homosexual tendencies" is a WT invention, not a biblical teaching. The witnesses are quick to say that they do not condemn any gays who would join them and remain celibate, but the reality is quite the contrary. I have been in car groups where the topic of conversation was how disgusting "those people" were. Witnesses do not follow modern science for the most part but hold that being gay is a choice. Since it's a choice they feel it's completely within their right to condemn people for it. From the platform I have heard that "someone is not born gay the same way as a bank robber is not born gay", that "saying they can't help it is the same as when a pedophile says he can't help it", and that "AIDS is the 'due recompense' homosexuals receive for their 'error'". All this was taught direcly to the congregation. While my school friends were all positive and supportive of me when I came out the witnesses in contrast are the most homophobic bunch I have seen in a long time. You are better off without them. All they will do is try to impose their guilt, fear and manipulation on you.
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  CountryGuy

  If you were to become a JW, you would have an awful, unhappy and miserable life. I know, I've been there.

  I was raised a JW. I was a third generation JW, actually. My grandmother had become a witness in the 1960s. So, I truely believed what the JWs said about homosexuality. I truely believed that if I prayed hard enough... if I opened my heart to Jehovah... if I put his interests above my own... I could be "changed." I sincerly did everything I could to get this "impurity" taken away from me, but it never happened. I could never get rid of it, and I wanted to!!

  You can only take being a failure for so long. I came to view myself as unworthy of God's love. Eventually, I came to view myself as unworthy of living. Because of what the JWs said about homosexuality and what they thought God's view on it was, I felt that it would be better to be dead, than gay. That at least my parents would never know the truth about me. One afternoon, before my sister got home from school and my parents got home from work, I slit my wrist. My mother had left work early that day with a headache and came into the bathroom as I was about to cut the other one. Horrified, she immediately rushed me to the hospital. Was it luck that my mother took the afternoon off? Or, was it God's direction? All I can say, is that it was the first time in a long time that I felt God's love in my life. My mother and I came up with a "cover" story and have never spoken about it since.

  When I got old enough, I moved to a different state so that I could be "me." This would also allow me to keep my true self a secret from my parents. This was important to me because JWs do not associate with their family members that are no longer members of the religion. This would include parents and their children. If I kept my "activities" from my parents, then I could still have a relationship with them. Then a few years later, my parents left the religion as well. I was so happy because I could finally stop lying about who I was. When I went to tell them I was gay, my mother actually stopped me before I could say the words and said "I know." My father told me, "I can't say that I like it. I can't say that I approve of it. But you're my son, and I don't love you any less because of it." Fast forward six years... I have a wonderful partner, boyfriend, companion... whatever you want to call him... who my parents love! And they are almost totally unphased by their gay son and his boyfriend. This wouldn't have been possible if they were still members of the religion.

  I'm sure my story isn't unique. And, I'm sure it doesn't totally apply to your situation. I do, however, hope that it gives you some insight as to the "attitude" the religion has towards gays and lesbians.