Trusting ourselves vs trusting the org

by Lady Lee 31 Replies latest jw friends

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    In my discussion with Estee yesterday the subject of how the WTS edits their own literature came up. It wasn't until after I left that I began to realize the extent of these edits or that they even occurred.

    An example I gave is how I could clearly remember having read something in a magazine. I could recall clearly where it even appeared on the page even if I could not recall what issue it was in. So I would go to the bound volume and try to find it. And most often would not be able to find the point I was looking for. I would walk away from these searches with my confidence in my ability to think clearly and recall things clearly severely undermined. Believing that the problem was mine I was left with the option of believing that the organization was better able than I was to "help" me understand God.

    After I left, I discovered that the bound volumes had been edited (as had some of the books). I don't recall ever being told or reading that the bound volumes had been edited.

    I trusted that they would not misuse the trust I had been persuaded to give them.

    I recall too times when in the book study times when we were restudying an older book. Sometimes we would find the same book had changes in the paragraphs. Mostly we just thought it was odd, perhaps a typo, and went with the newer edition. I am flabbergasted now that we gave so little thought to the changes made in the books. But then we had been so well taught that our memory could not be trusted and to place ALL our trust in the org.

    So what is the long term effect of having ones memory and ability to think clearly undermined so heavily?

    I was terrified to go out into the world. Only the thought of suicide drove me out of the org. I had no education (high school drop-out). I had no confidence. I had been told my whole life I was stupid and the WT literature seemed to prove that point because I so often remembered things "wrongly".

    I was terribly shy about speaking out, most often getting drowned in the crowd of other voices trying to be heard. Often I would say nothing so that I would not show everyone how incredibly stupid I really was.

    When I went to college I chose to start with 2 courses to find out if I could do it. I passed so enrolled full time. I tested myself constantly - tested my memory which actually is a lot better than I thought it was and graduated with honors (What a surprise for someone who spent so much time being convinced that I was a dummy).

    I find the uncertainty still creeps in though. I feel very confident in things I know I know. But if there is any doubt I find I will sit back and stay quiet. The old feelings of not being as smart as others or that I just don't "get it" creep in. I have a huge library in my house (almost 700 books - I am even rebuilding my WT library) and I have read almost all of them. I can't get enough information about things that interest me.

    Somewhere on the board the other day I was reading how people fresh out of the borg have this insatiable need for information and read everything they can. I wonder if that need to learn is in part the need to dispel this lack of trust in our own minds and ability to think clearly.

    Information is power. They controlled the information. By doing this they were able to undermine our abilities to think and remember clearly. The constant changes, the editing (unknown to us) the concept of "tacking into the wind" and "new light" all served a very destructive purpose - to keep us unsure of ourselves.

    Just some more of my ramblings.

  • xenawarrior
    xenawarrior

    very succinct "rambling" there Lee !! Keep rambling, I love reading it !!

    "Gaslighting" at it's finest by an entire organization eh?

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    Gaslighting - that's it. The effect is that we distrust ourselves and our perceptions

  • cypher50
    cypher50

    Somewhere on the board the other day I was reading how people fresh out of the borg have this insatiable need for information and read everything they can. I wonder if that need to learn is in part the need to dispel this lack of trust in our own minds and ability to think clearly.

    That is an interesting statement considering that I am nearly done with my reading of Crisis of Conscience...after a single day (technically, I got it from the library yesterday at 3:30pm EST). I have never read a book produced by the WTS that showed so much love for its "enemies"...what really has gotten to me is R. Franz's last comment on how Swingle broke down and cried for him...

    Back on topic; one of the biggest reasons for disassociating myself was how references & footnotes were either misconstrued or not noted at all. The Trinity brochure was where I first discovered it and unfortunately it was the case in every publication I could find...no organization professing "the truth" should ever have to resort to such tactics.

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    You should trust in the Organization more... any inconsistencies that you think you see are clearly the result of apostates. If an original Watchtower and its Bound Volume do not match, or two books of the same title do not match, it is because one was replaced or tampered with by an apostate!

    Your toilet cleaning privileges will be suspended until it can be verified that you once again have Jehover?s Spirit.

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    Very interesting post. Although I don't think this typically "Orwellian" kind of information control is limited to the WT. Every (religious or political) power structure uses it, as much as it is able to do. Within the WT the information- and consequently mind-control is undoubtedly very high.

    I remember the best help I got in trusting my own subjective perception of things when I was leaving the org. came from the N.T. johannine texts. Such as:

    "I do not know whether he is a sinner. One thing I do know, that though I was blind, now I see." (John 9:25)

    "As for you, the anointing that you received from him abides in you, and so you do not need anyone to teach you." (1 John 2:27)

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    cypher - exactly. If you have nothing to hide then why not be upfront and tell people the real truth. Demanding full trust is so stupid really.

    I work with people who have had their trust betrayed in sometimes the most horrible ways imaginable. If they came to my office and I said "Trust me" most would laugh in my face and leave. They they would have every right to. I tell them the opposite - "Don't trust me because you don't know me. Trust is something that is earned and I will do my best to try to earn it."

    The WTS demands trust and does nothing to earn it. And in the process destroys our trust in ourselves.

    When I went to school I took some philosophy and research courses - great ways to learn critical thinking.

    Elsewhere - you deserve to lose your santa hat for that

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    Narkissos - right on. The Bible is pretty clear - the way to God is through the Christ not an organization.

    In my readings and research of the org and dysfunctional families it doesn't really surprise me that the dynamics of the org are almost identical to abusive and/or alcoholic families. Just look at who the original founders were - Russell and Rutherford. The patterns were there and we now see how bad it can get. Well actually I think it might get even worse for those still there.

  • talesin
    talesin
    Somewhere on the board the other day I was reading how people fresh out of the borg have this insatiable need for information and read everything they can.

    This was too true in my case.

    I was literally starved for intellectual stimulation - I need to USE my mind.

    There is also the element of wanting to know what the TRUTH is - what IS reality? What do others believe? So much to learn when one has been stifled for so long ...

    tal

    ps. how's it going, LL?

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    In many of us, the wt does destroy self trust. Since leaving, i find it interesting to observe people who have never been jws, of all walks of life, using self trust. The nonreligious have it more than fundies do. Scammers have a tremendous amount of self trust.

    My own self trust had been practically destroyed inside the wt org. On leaving, i too read voraciously. I do less reading now, more contemplating.

    Elsewhere

    Your toilet cleaning privileges will be suspended until it can be verified that you once again have Jehover?s Spirit.

    Figuratively true.

    SS

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