funny old life isnt it....

by Deacon 32 Replies latest jw friends

  • Deacon
    Deacon

    I just said to NPy this morning how I didnt expect this post to attract so many readers and so many caring comments.

    Its kinda sad really...Im in the business of medical/emotional help, and I have an idea of how the grieving process works.

    The sad thing is...we are talking aboutthe "TRUTH" here. I guess that is what hurts the most.

    There is no one on this board that has escaped scot free from the emotional entanglement to what ever degree, either they are left with total anger at the situation, or just happy to be away from the whole thing..but still hurt or hide inside...

    No one got away free...

    hmmm

    edited for appalling grammer and typos...

  • think41self
    think41self

    Deacon,

    Thank you for sharing your heart with us. Everyone else has stated so eloquently their feelings and support and encouragement to you, all I can add is: ME TOO

    And NEVER think any of us would judge you for appealing your df'ing or for wanting to be reinstated! That is a personal thing for all of us. And there is much to be said for wanting to be in control of your destiny. You are on the road to healing, and it sounds like NPY is a great aid to you in that. I hope you both take good care of each other.

    Bugeye's Wife,

    I found your comments and thoughts especially moving, as I know you have recently left, also. You are certainly spreading your wings and flying now.

    May we all soar to new heights together

    think41self

  • esther
    esther

    Deacon, I feel lost, too. Petty? How could it be petty? We KNEW we had the TRUTH. We felt safe in our box, but now we have had our anchor taken away, so we are drifting with the tides, and no longer know which direction we are heading. We have lost the certainty of what the future holds. We know that the belief system we have had for so long was based on shifting sands. Now we have to find our own way. But we have friends here, who have also been through things, maybe not exactly the same, but enough for us to have empathy for one another.

    esther

  • GinnyTosken
    GinnyTosken

    "You shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free, but first it shall make you miserable." - Carl Rogers

    I admire your courage, Deacon, and hope the pain soon eases.

    Ginny

  • Mazza
    Mazza

    I would like to warn you Deacon that getting back 'in' may not be as easy as you think. Amazing posted about this and a case that he knew of and I know a recent one too in Australia where they basically had it in for this guy who was a Witness for nearly 50 yrs. If you want to get back 'in', so that you can leave on your own terms, you need to know that you will HAVE to do everything on THEIR terms for the duration of your naughty little boy, stand in the corner, period. With my friend, who was d'fd for, wait for it, Reviling, they would not accept his repentant spirit for 2 yrs - by which time he contacted us and some other exjws, believing he was being kept out by Jehovah in order to bring us back in to the Truth. Of course we helped him see what a crock it all is, and he is out and free now. To show you how difficult the committee can be, this guy's wife committed adultery with another brother and was d'fd. She and the brother attended meetings and were reinstated and married after a year - getting a large wad of cash from the divorce settlement. Our friend had the nerve to bitch about his ex-wife of 20 yrs and the brother he'd called a brotehr for many yrs. So he got d'fd for reviling. AND they expected him to be truly repentant for bitching about her. Hell - what she did was dispicable!!!!

    So - be prepared to swallow any shreds of pride you may have and make sure you are totally submissive and sorry sorry sorry and more sorry! Good luck

    Marilyn

  • thinkers wife
    thinkers wife

    Marilyn,
    Just when you think you have heard it all, you haven't. Boy they must have pulled all the stops out to get him on reviling.
    Where were those elders when the crap was happening to me? Oh yeah, I forgot, it was the elders and their wives that were reviling me. I guess postion does count!
    TW

  • teejay
    teejay

    Deacon,

    I know this is a couple of days old, but I’ve been
    missing from the board and didn’t see this until
    yesterday and wanted to make a comment.

    I’m sorry for your recent disfellowshipping and the
    painful adjustment it has caused. We have a common
    experience since I was df’d for a period of six months
    about ten years ago under circumstances that I deemed
    very unfair. Afterwards, Dennis, one of the men who
    served on my committee, told me that my case had been
    “mishandled.” He had been mentored into the truth by
    Steve, a long time elder who had the bearing of one of
    the sweetest men you’d ever want to meet until those
    library doors closed. Then the heart of cold steel was
    seen in all its unmerciful fierceness. But that’s
    another story….

    You said:

    I miss the whole shebang of everlasting life and the
    nearness of it. I miss the assemblies that we used to
    have, everyone working together in the kitchens, all the
    fun we used to have...

    I miss the total belief that we had the right way, the
    correct understanding, a direct link to God....and a
    formulae for happy lives.

    Not long ago I posted something about a JW friend of
    mine named Kevin. You have touched on some of the things
    I have always thought about when I think about active
    Witnesses. There are very definite advantages to being a
    JW, and since I was raised ‘in the truth,’ I know (and
    fondly recall) many of them.

    I remember working in the kitchens, as your words make
    me recall the sounds of the steamers that cleaned the
    pots and pans; working in expediting or in the attendant
    dept. One of the memories I will always cherish is getting
    to the district assembly site early and finding a seat
    high up and watching the building come to life. Doing
    this led me to Brother Robert Smith of Muskogee, Ok. Seems
    he enjoyed doing the same thing. We became friends even
    though he was a good fifty years older than me. Still, he
    always called me Brother Jones.

    He was one of the most brilliant bible students I have
    ever known. When he talked about the bible and bible
    characters, it was as if he knew those people personally.
    Oh, the talks we had!! I miss him and the simple joy of
    the simple truth. I’m not ashamed to say that even though
    I’m far from the person I was then in many ways, a tear
    always forms when I recall those wonderful times spent
    in the warm loving association of Jehovah’s People.

    James Taylor in “Carolina in My Mind” sings
    In my mind I'm goin' to Carolina
    Can't you see the sunshine
    Can't you just feel the moonshine
    Maybe just like a friend of mine
    It hit me from behind
    Yes I'm goin' to Carolina in my mind

    Those words came to me as I was swept up in a wave
    of nostalgia after reading your words. To me, the
    Carolina that he speaks of is the simple place where
    the answers were easy and clear and so were your friends.
    Jehovah was alive and interested in me personally,
    working things to my advantage in my life. But harsh
    realities came and interrupted my reverie and life has
    not been the same since.

    Still, I work about two miles from where there is at
    least one district convention every year. In a few weeks,
    in the early morning hours, I will see carloads and vanloads
    of people headed east toward downtown and feel a kinship
    with them. I guess I always will, and the thought is a
    pleasant one to me.

    Clint Eastwood as Robert Kincaid in the Bridges of
    Madison County
    said, The old dreams were good
    dreams; they didn't work out, but glad I had them.

    So it is.

    I know you will find your way, Deacon. We always do. I
    enjoyed your post and believe me, we all feel your pain.
    Logical said it best: "Sorry Deacon."

    After that, what else needs to be said? Hang in there my
    man. It get better.

    peace,
    todd, who’s gone to Carolina, in his mind.

  • Roamingfeline
    Roamingfeline

    To Deacon:

    Big hugs to you. I see your pain, and I know from where it comes. Many of us have been there, and we know how it felt to be in that position. Time, Deacon, will help you to heal.

    To Comf:

    Sir, you have voiced EXACTLY how I felt when I left, and what it felt like to lose "paradise" and finally accept the adult life that I should have been heading toward in my teens when I went into that stinking religion. I thank you for putting a voice to the feelings and emotions that go with the ride.

    To all: We all go through a grief process when leaving the Organization. It's posts like the one by Deacon which serve to remind us that we're all human, we have feelings, and some are on different spots in the road than others, and sometimes need a helping hand, or encouragement to put one foot in front of the other and go on. This is a wonderful thread for reminding us of why we're on these boards, to go further in our healing and to help others to get to where we are now and beyond.

    Thanks everyone,
    RCat

  • COMF
    COMF

    Hi, Roamingfeline! I don't recognize your name. If you're new, welcome to the board. You said:

    This is a wonderful thread for reminding us of why we're on these boards, to go further in our healing and to help others to get to where we are now and beyond.

    Yes, indeedy. Deacon touched a chord in all of us. I've been doing this since 1996, and I still get theraputic help from it.

    COMF

  • RedhorseWoman
    RedhorseWoman

    Deacon, sorry to hear about the pain you are experiencing. I've been out for about 16 years now, and there are still twinges from time to time. After all, this organization was my LIFE.

    One thing I am endlessly thankful for, however, is that I finally have a chance to experience life...now....rather than waiting for the always-future New System. I have found a different, but deeper sense of spirituality, and I'm learning to appreciate each day for what it is, rather than waiting for what I once believed was to come.

    They tried to take away our present for an imaginary future. We have regained our present. We can rejoice in that.

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