"Weak People Become Jehovah's Witnesses" (page 5)

minimus

Little Witch-----That was the best response yet, in my opinion.

orangefatcat

According to Websters Dictionary:

There are 7 different entries for the word WEAK,

Let me share them with you. its a lacking of physical strenght energy, or vigor, feeble
likely fail under pressure, stress or strain, lacking resistance such as ; a weak link in a chain
lacking firmness of character or strenght of will
lacking the proper strenght or amount of ingredients. such as weak coffee.
lacking the ability to funtion normally or fully : a weak heart.'
lacking aptitude or skill : weak student weak in math etc.
Lacking or resulting from a lack of intelligence
unconvincing such as a weak argument
lacking authority or the power to govern
lacking potency or intensity such as a weak sunlight.
Him that is weak in the faith, recieve ye, but not to doubtful disputations. Romans 14:1 not able to with stand temptation ,urgency, persuasion easily immpressed or moved
or overcome or vulnerable or weak.
weak -eyed, weak-handed, weak-hearted, weak-minded and weak-spirited and the like..

It is synonyms

weak feeble, frail,fragile,infirm,decripit, debilitated.
one can become fragile or delicate such as after an accident.
frailty implies delicacy and inability to endure or withstand

Examples:

a poor infirmed, weak and despised old man. Shakespeare
weak with hunger, mad with love. Dryden
not able to sustain a great weight,pressure of strain such as weak timber, weak rope.
a plant with frail stalk soft and weak

I believe with all my heart not to be weak as I had no choice it being thrusted upon me by my parents.

However, I lacked the strenght to step away from this organiztion. I being fragile in what my family may think of me. Or my friends. I felt l tremendous strain on me to contiune for fear of being dispised by all in the congregation where I was looked upon as being strong. Weak and feeble minded in the sense I wasn't or didn't have the courage to break away.

I am a strong minded person today and I will never allow anyone or anything to make me feel inadaquate, weak, frail or feeble.

For the opposite of weak is strong. The Organization makes JW weak and feebleminded by haveing mind control over them. You do this and that and if you don't then you will be considered weak and even bad assosiation. The strong willed elders are taught to be very persusavive with their sauve ways and eloquent words to make the witnesses remain weak minded for they will be destroyed at Armeggadon for not having done what they have told you to do. They are not allowed freedom of independant thinking. The weak builders are the GBs rules and regulations, not found in scripture but in their own words.

I hope that many more Jehovah's Witnesses break free from that bondage of the organization, because if they really thought about it, it is the organization that is weak and frail, not them.

Well now that I have taken alot of time here I hope that we all benefit from being strong.

They (The Governing Body and Watchtower Society) do as what Little Witch says, btw Little your post was excellent and amac so was your posting. The Org. is like a vulture and prey on the weak. They are on a power trip. Power is their tool, Look do it our way or look out. I am so happy I broke away from them.

Love Orangefatcat

minimus

OFC------You sound weak to me....

little witch

Its funny. The strong (ones who left the borg) are considered "weak" by the members standpoint.

Another instance of jw backward thinking!

And another thing...You know how we often discuss the apparent failure/stupidity of recruiting door to door? They arent stupid at all...They know where to find easy targets! The fact is, they are limited to particular demographics...They are looking for sales people. They do certainly know they wont convert or even interest strong, balanced people. That is why they don't bother sharing their "good news" in other places...It would be a waste of time for them!

OFC, you are stronger than you know. We all are. We faced our problems, and dealt with them. Some at a higher cost than others. (losing family, friends, shunning etc).

There is no shame in being weak at times. Like I said before, it is human. It takes a strong person to deal with that weakness, and to make oneself better off. I find that admirable in a person!

I know alot of folks may think we are "weak" for using this board. Some say things to us like, "just get over it"...Well, we ARE over it. The worst is over. Most of us picked ourselves up off the ground, told the borg to take a flying leap, and began taking our own lives back! And more importantly, we will never, ever let ourselves be taken advantage of again! Victory I say, VICTORY!!!!

minimus

Yes, LW. there are some people that believe if you post here, you MUST be weak. You must not have gotten over being a Witnesss. I'm not a weak person but I must be weak for this board. (But I don't come here weakly, just daily).

bisous

I agree with the posters who stated that religion fills an emotional need, sometimes a weakness of character. What I mean by this is many people I've met who are religious adherents are so to receive a 'life code' to follow. The structure and rules provide a moral compass to live by. This applies to more than just JWs.

What is also interesting is that many individuals demonstrate strong moral fiber in absence of religion. They do not need a governing group to dictate morality, basic human decency, right from wrong.

When you are born into a religion and forced to comply, slowly inducted into teachings and beliefs via mind control, it is a different story. You're not weak, you are taken advantage of as a vulnerable child.

On a separate note, I read the posts about Larry Graham...I was a JW in the Oakland, CA area. I saw him and his family members regularly at conventions at the Oakland Coliseum. Never saw him 'whisked around' with an entourage, he would mill about just like everyone else and sat in the general seating like others. Maybe because he grew up in the bay area, he was more comfortable than in other cities where he had more of the 'starlike' quality.

little witch

Bisous,

I am with you, in that religion is not needed to make one good.

But I have trouble comparing jw's to other religions..

I don't see a single example of morals taught by the dubs. Most major religions teach love and acceptance. Not only to spiritual brothers and sisters, but to downright outsiders!

The witnesses are all about recruiting, keeping members by force and cohersive measures, isolation, labeling and bait and switch manuevers.

They have no interest in humanity. They are better compared to say, the shaklee corporation, avon, and tupperware... It is more a pyramid scheme to make money, and less of religion...

I know many people who attend church for example, who dont actually believe in god! They do it to help others. To pool their money to operate food pantries, crises centers, etc...See, their focus is on real morality. On caring for others...We don't see that with witnesses...Their focus is not on healing, it is on numbers.

orangefatcat

Minimus your a killer. Never met anyone like you before. X

But hey that is what makes the world go round and round.

Love Orangefatcat

bisous

My view was:

many people I've met who are religious adherents are so to receive a 'life code' to follow. The structure and rules provide a moral compass to live by. This applies to more than just JWs. many people I've met who are religious adherents are so to receive a 'life code' to follow. The structure and rules provide a moral compass to live by. This applies to more than just JWs.

not all religions, of course. And I agree with your points re: JWs. I think they would also apply to Mormons, many Baptist and other fundamentalist sects. Not all religions push recruiting as hard, although I have relatives that are Christian and spend a lot of time 'witnessing', trying to save others.

Maybe a lot of people who don't believe in god go to church to be able to do good works....I don't know....but it sounds kind of suspicious to me. Why? because there are tons of ways to do good works such as helping the needy without church involvement to do it. More direct means, such as food banks, homeless shelters, Habitat for Humanity, Project Open Hand, etc. I have involvement with all of these and see lots of people doing so as well. And we are not associated with any church to do so.

But generally speaking, LW sounds like we agree a lot on this topic. and yes, the JW administration is a nefarious lot....with a lot of people who want to be led lining up to follow.

minimus

OFC------I'm more a kidder than a killer. to you!!

"Weak People Become Jehovah's Witnesses"

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