Hi Robhic,
It is good to get a non-JW viewpoint. Jgnat helps me with that too.
but after hearing the specific word NEAR over and over and over again in all of its associated contexts can someone not become immune to its meaning?
The last 5 years I attended meetings, Robhic, I actually kept track of those al phrases that had to do with time. I would highlight them and circle them, then show them to my husband. I would make little derogatory comments in the margins.?actually the beginning of my reviews. It was the only way it was tolerable. Bit by bit, I saw the manipulations and lies. Now I hope my reviews can help some let go sooner than I did.
How do I do it? I used to have a job that required typing police reports on abuse. There were times I had to stop and have a good cry. But I knew that my work was part of the effort to catch and lock up such people. So I perservered.
Thanks for letting me know that these reviews can be beneficial.
Hey Frank, keeping warm in Canada?
their misunderstanding and abuse of what Jesus taught about watchfulness and urgency
I am still trying to clear out all the WTS propaganda and see what Jesus? really said. I keep challenging every statement by the WTS, "Where?s the proof?"
Kg,
What level of need for self-deception would allow one to actually study this stuff and not recognize it is crazy.
That is so true. And after leaving the WTS, it is good that all of us remember that the WTS is not alone in practicing deception. These same techniques can be used by our family, the government, our employer, etc. I was always amazed how women could stay with their abusers, or how alcoholics could not see they had a drinking problem, that their government had lied to them. Same techniques; we need to be alert to deception in all areas of our life.
HadEnuf
,You?re so refreshing. I was glad to see you got in on the radio show. I hope they recorded your comments. I?m going to check it today.
People brag more about doing it.
Jgnat, thanks for developing the WTS deception that the world is getting worse. They don?t dare use stats because they?re not out there. I missed a show by John Stossel that debunked those myths. Thanks for your research. It can get overwhelming to follow up every point in a week?s time and I had 2 less days because of my excursion last weekend.
Maverick
,Jesus does not need the WTS and they don't want him as mankinds savior! That job they have taken for themselves.
Yes they have taken Jesus out of the equation and put themselves in his place. Does that make them the antichrist? (smile)
Yes, the turnover keeps the JWs new and ignorant of what happened in the past. I know one older sister (80?s) whose parents were JWs. Every time she raises her hand, they cringe, because she shoots holes in the carefully crafted WTS history.
For example, when the JW today reads that JWs in the 30?s and 40?s were arrested for going door to door, they think of themselves a couple of car groups going out a Sunday. What they hear from this sister, is that many car groups from towns and cities far away were organized to converge on a small town and "cover" it quickly. The idea was to fill up the local jail with 20 JWs so that the rest could continue "preaching." After hearing that one sister said to me, "No wonder they were arrested. They wanted to be arrested. Why didn?t they just send a couple of people go and do it quietly?"
Pistoff
,I?m glad you aren?t going this Sunday.
But all you comments here were excellent.
Message preached. Wow. A handful of people knock on doors and hope that the householder won't come; this is the message of doom that is being preached??? I seem to recall being told to keep the message hopeful; I also can't recall that Jesus' good news had anything to do with all mankind being killed off.
Good news for whom? Can you imagine Jesus reading Isaiah 61 and then telling them that the vast majority of mankind living was going to die. They would have killed him on the spot rather than tossing him into the ravine.
Hey new father, Gopher,
Getting more urgency out of their followers is like trying to squeeze blood out of a turnip.
More like beating a dead horse.
The urgency is in the fact that the money is not rolling in like it used to. Between the project in Wallkill and the pending $50 million plus taxes due in France, the WTS may do itself in financially. Talking about tithing in the last article, made me realize how grim things are getting for them.
Imagine how reluctant people are to become JWs and it is supposed to be free. But look at the numbers that become Mormons knowing they have to give 10% of the gross income?
Mysterious,Thanks for telling me about this show. I am going to try and see if I can get a transcript/tape.
I watched a show on 20/20 the other night, it was detailing the top 10 myths of our time. Number one was that the world is getting worse. They went through each category such as economic, health etc and showed statistically how things are not getting worse and how much things have improved over even 100 years ago. Of course the WT doesn't want to hear it and certainly doesn't want their members to here it. Without this myth what do they have to lock people into an endless cycle of meetings.
Blondie