When a JW parent dies

by Lady Lee 31 Replies latest social family

  • Sentinel
    Sentinel

    This is an excellent post, and something that I have given thought to. However, my dad made his own arrangements prior to his death and they were honored: no casket, no funeral, just cremation, and ashes disbursed in a lovely place. My dad was not an active JW when he passed...he was baptised, but inactive for many years. He had a fear of armageddon, but felt the rules and regulations were too strict for him.

    When he began planning for his arrangements, he also planned for my mom's, and they both decided that they wanted to be cremated. I really don't know whether my mom wishes a funeral in the KH or not, but her feeling is that a casket is a waste of money. They will probably have some type of service for her, because she continues to be a very faithful and active sister.

    She has already said that all her estate will go to the youngest, our brother, who did so much for them in the past years. Being the youngest, and male, he was able to be helpful in ways that I could not--especially so, since I walked away from being a JW in the early 80's.

    My dad's ashes were kept in a box under a desk for over a year afterwards, and then finally, my siblings gathered and said a final farewell. My brother read aloud what I had written as my special message to him. Then his ashes were let go. It was private and went well, he said. Mom cried as he read what I'd written in my abscense.

    I would never go about arguing with anyone regarding the known desires of my mom. She has a will, and it will be honored. She has said that some things should be sold and the funds given to the congregation; but now she owns so little, that I'm sure my brother will take whatever she has and the rest will go to needy people in the congregation.

    I certainly wouldn't like it if things happened and I wasn't aware of it; but there wouldn't be much I could do. My mom has things under control and she has made her desires known, so we will all honor her wishes.

    The thing that I want most from her is something I can never have, and that is our precious mother/daughter relationship, which was ripped away many years ago, due to JW influence. She has made her choice and I have made mine.

    It's important in matters such as this that your parent(s) have a will and make their wishes known to family. It doesn't even have to be a formal will, as long as someone is appointed to make certain their wishes are carried out as best as can possibly be done. My parents softened a bit from their cruel letter to me back when dad first made arrangements for their cremations. He told me that if either one of them died, there would be no need for me to come to Florida, no need for me to do anything. So, I was hurt, and I wrote back, that in case I died, they didn't have to be concerned about coming to my funeral, etc. Feelings can get hurt when things get emotional. No use to wait until the last minute for important things such as this.

    I admire my dad for doing this when he did, even in the way he did it. At least he took much of the burden from my mom and from my brother. It gave my mom great peace not to have to worry with all details. I believe she is intending the same thing. Although her being an active JW, and most of her children being on the outside now, restricts things a bit.

    /<

  • SheilaM
    SheilaM

    LadyLee: My family were never JW's but as you might remember I chose not to attend my Mothers funeral due to the dysfunctional dynamic. I am choosing to go to the cemetary by myself. I am still glad I didn't go what they chose to do and the repercussions on my step-dad was horrible.

    So I guess I am saying your Mother will be gone, do what you can to make your peace and let the others do what they will.

  • mouthy
    mouthy

    Lee did you forget Richard he is not a JW now .What brother would attend???

  • mouthy
    mouthy

    Nark!!! that was wondeful thing you did. It was not a silly story very moving to me.(((((HUG))))

  • blondie
    blondie

    I have already dealt with this before I faded.

    My JW father is my unrepentant molester. No chance of being at his funeral.

    My JW mother is the one who knew he was doing it and did not stop it. She was afraid he would divorce her.

    No point in going and pretending to be sorry they are dead and that I miss them.

    I miss having parents that loved and protected me. But I have a loving husband and friends that have proved to be "closer than a brother."

    Proverbs 18 24 There are "friends" who destroy each other, but a real friend sticks closer than a brother.

  • little witch
    little witch

    Lee,

    I know you are in Canada, so I am not sure how this will relate.

    But my experience with the jw funerals have all been "memorial services". No body present.

    In the States, the children of the deceased are the next of kin and can dispose of the body as they see fit.

    My father (non dub) passed recently and stated "no services of any kind". We his children held a graveside service and social function afterwards. Perfectly legal, and moral.

    Have you ever had body present memorials there? I am certain that they will not interfere with burials here due to next of kin rights.

    One thing for sure, do not subject yourself to the trauma of a jw memorial service. Nothing but further heartache could come from that.

    I am very sorry for the loss of your mom before death BTW. Sounds strange, but you know what I mean. ((((Hugs)))

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    (((Sentinel)))

    Sheila sounds like you have a good plan

    Grace Frank is the only one she is in contact with now. No one seems to speak to Richard that I know of. Vic would come but he would be on the ex-JW side.

    (((Blondie))) I hear ya. I surprised myself when my father died by going. I was polite but honest. I certainly didn't pretend to anyone I was sorry. Everyone agreed it was good he was gone because now he couldn't hurt anyone. And the one cousin who tried the "He loved you in his own way"-bit got a mouthful of reality from me.

  • blondie
    blondie

    Lee, you had living people at the funeral you wanted to see that would be supportive. My JW family are the last people I want to see and there will be no non-JW people there I know. So there is no point in going.

    I'm glad you had supportive people there.

    Blondie

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    Yeah Blondie that would make a world of difference.

    When my mother goes most are never-beens or ex-JWs. So it would be a lot easier to do it our way or both

  • wednesday
    wednesday

    LL, when my mom, a faithful JW died, I arranged the memorial at the hall. I asked 2 elders who were the only ones who ever helped any of us to do the talk and ulogy. They did. Most of her family was dead and the rest did not even have the decency to come. Only a handful of jws attnded-there could not have been more than 30 people in the entire KH. (including speaker, family and all). I was very hurt, it was like a final slap in my face from the cong. .But to those who came, i am grateful.I found out just how very few friends i have. I am grateful mom was not alive to see her hot shot bro in law the elder, could not be bothered to come, he had other plans and just did not want to break them.

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