by LevelThePlayingField 52 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
At some point, probably when most of the current GB have died off, they will make the 144,000 a "symbolic number".
As 1914 recedes farther and farther into the background, and even those who "overlapped" with people who were around in 1914 are nearly almost all gone, it will become inevitable.
Along with their own version of Hebrew Mythology, aka the Bible, jw's have also developed their own "math-magic" to replace mathematics!
just saying!
" Of those alive in 1935 who partook, let's say they were all 10 years of age or older. "
How about, let's not ? You're joking, right ? Unless Rutherford was even more of a drinking deviant than we thought and insisted that the children he wrote the odd book "Children " for would get jacked up on wine at the yearly memorial . Of course, with this bizarre organization - anything is entirely possible. lol
nstead of the numbers decreasing they are actually increasing to the point where we currently don`t have just 8000 Anointed we actually have over 18000 claiming to be Anointed with the heavenly hope.
where did you find that , the year book ? I firmly believe it's a literal martyrdom not the symbolic one they claim . Probably wont happen until the GT and mark of the beast stuff happens .Some of those probably legit , many called few chosen . If they died of natural causes in the first century they were believed to have sinned and not confessed , like the story of Ananias , the early apostles were pretty indestructible , the apostle paul ways beaten left for dead a couple times , survived a ship wreck and the bite of a deadly snake , thrown off a cliff ... still moved on to being fed to the lions
"--if they died of natural causes in the first century they were believed to have sinned--" bold added for emphasis
Since 1914, the generation, here are not many WT "anointed"(none of the prominent ones) that did not die of natural causes. They all did.
Only the victims of the Nazi executions, mostly by the "fall axe", we know of, but how many of them took the emblems? where Christians?
144K is a random number, blabbered by an insecure self styled Prophet, who had no other Job to do.
Wt has an extended 2 group systems
In JW theology, "Other sheep" do not exist apart from the "Great Crowd" in the Christian Era
In JW theology, "Other sheep" do not exist apart from the "Great Crowd" in the Christian Era
You might be right, the two terms define sub-groups of the "Earthly Class". The great crowd are only mentioned in Revelation aka "the Lord's day". There really is no Great Crowd before Armageddon*, because they come out of the great tribulation, and that has not happened yet.
There is the rub for wt, although they deny there was an Earthly Calling before 1914-18, WT theology implies, that, with perhaps 134 000 sealed/dead before 1914, the m/billions of previous partakers, if they did not commit the "sin against the holy spirit", must be resurrected on Earth.
OS, whether they, or wt likes it, or not. There will be millions of partakers in paradise!
All earthly-bound humans, aka the 12 Tribes of Israel, are of the non-anointed Sheep, or wt's Other Sheep.
the real OS are Cornelius and later gentile anointed. bsw.
* wt 1995 April 15, Question from readers. right column, par 3.
There is the rub for wt, although they deny there was an Earthly Calling before 1914-18
False, they do not deny an earthly hope prior to 1918. They believe anyone faithful from abel until jesus death had an earthly hope. From jesus death until just before 1935 was all heavenly. Since 1935(ish) both existed.
That said, the numbers in no way add up. Far far more than 144k faithful in 1900 years. That rediculious teaching never made sense and they realized it in the 1930’s, thus the up ‘othersheep/great crowd’ bail out.
