Another survey from Lee

by Lady Lee 54 Replies latest jw friends

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep

    • What year did you leave?
    • 1969 and again in 1976 (never baptised)
    • How old were you when you left?
    • 17 then 24
    • Did the internet have anything to do with your decision to leave?
    • No
    • If you left before you got on the internet what reading did you do about the WTS or cults that helped you make your decision?
    • None
    • What was the one most important reason that helped you decide to leave (even if the decision was made for you through a DFing).
    • Freedom
    • If you left and still thought it was "the truth" what helped you change your mind?
    • Dad's raving about Armageddon being close led me to do some research on false prophets. Used Google

    Edited to add: The biggest threat to the WTS may be Google

  • aunthill
    aunthill

    • What year did you leave? 1994
    • How old were you when you left? 48
    • Did the internet have anything to do with your decision to leave? No
    • If you left before you got on the internet what reading did you do about the WTS or cults that helped you make your decision? The Bible
    • What was the one most important reason that helped you decide to leave (even if the decision was made for you through a DFing). Their views on sex, new clothing styles, new partakers at the memorial, the "Greatest Man" book.
    • If you left and still thought it was "the truth" what helped you change your mind? I had had questions about various things and would put them out of my mind. I finally got fed up with the lies and perversions, and their blame the victim attitude, and DA'd myself, even though I had no idea where to go from there (remember "we - the WTBS - have sayings of everlasting life). I since became a "born-again" Christian - Praise God!
  • run dont walk
    run dont walk

      • What year did you leave?
      • How old were you when you left?
      • Did the internet have anything to do with your decision to leave?
      • If you left before you got on the internet what reading did you do about the WTS or cults that helped you make your decision?
      • What was the one most important reason that helped you decide to leave (even if the decision was made for you through a DFing).
      • If you left and still thought it was "the truth" what helped you change your mind?
      1) i did not like the people, especially the ones my age at the time (16-20), lots of smoking, lots of drugs, lots of drinking, lots of sex, abortions, lying, etc. I was told "just dont hang around with them, they will have to answer to Jehovah.", well, you cant hang around worldly people, now cant hang around with ones in my own congregation, what do i have , a life of isolation, or hanging out with people over 40. Now it didnt bother me (REALLY) that people were doing this, what bothered me was, them up on stage, doing talks, and demonstration at the assembly on how bad these things are. Yes, there were some nice people i met, and respected, but not enough to keep me there.

    2) Mentally, probaly 15-16, i was always embarassed by the religion growing up, but in a strange way i believed it, i just wanted to live my life, and whatever happens so be it. Not spend my whole life in field service waiting for Armageddon. I spent many days at the kingdom hall, wondering "How am I going to get out of here?", Physically, i left at the age of 21 (i moved in with my worldly girlfriend)

    3) No, internet was not around then, i had heard of Ray Franz, but didnt know much, and had read very little.

    4)None

    5) I had met a wonderful girl (still with today), i had met so many great people, but never really pursued a long term relationship, because i was a JW, after turning down many many beautiful women, I decided enough is enough, I am either going to be a lonely old man, or enjoy my life, and i went for it, explained my situation to her, and we did it.

    6) Now, the answer is the Internet, just having so much info at your fingertips is incredible, okay not every thing we read will be 100% right, but when you read so much by so many different people, you can start to determine what is true and what is madeup.

    My 2 cents :

    when i left (1988-89), part of me still thought it was true, in a strange way, I WISH I had stayed a little longer, to receive the 1995 generation change, that would of sent me packing for sure. I didn't find out about the change til 1999, bought my first computer not long after and the rest is history.

    I always kid my family now when i talk to them, I say, "You know I do more studying now, then i did my entire life.", I wish you could see the look I get. Its a Kodak moment.

    Honestly, I NEVER NEVER NEVER thought, in fact it NEVER EVER entered my head, that one day, I could understand that the Watchtower is a complete lie.

    So, the information available is overwelming, which makes me ask ..............

    Why cant the other 6,000,000 figure it out ???

  • seattleniceguy
  • What year did you leave?
    2003, September
  • How old were you when you left?
    25
  • Did the internet have anything to do with your decision to leave?
    Not directly. I did not read any information that would be directly outlawed by the organization. But the existence of the Internet, along with a general increased consciousness of the availability of information, probably produced the culture in which I was able to objectively consider evidence contrary to the Watchtower Society. (Hope that makes sense.)
  • If you left before you got on the internet what reading did you do about the WTS or cults that helped you make your decision?
    None.
  • What was the one most important reason that helped you decide to leave (even if the decision was made for you through a DFing).
    It was an intensely strong feeling that Witnesses were intellectually dishonest.
  • If you left and still thought it was "the truth" what helped you change your mind?
    I knew it was not the truth after I left, but CoC helped me decide to formally withdraw.
  • SNG

  • RAYZORBLADE
    RAYZORBLADE
    • What year did you leave?
    • How old were you when you left?
    • Did the internet have anything to do with your decision to leave?
    • If you left before you got on the internet what reading did you do about the WTS or cults that helped you make your decision?
    • What was the one most important reason that helped you decide to leave (even if the decision was made for you through a DFing).
    • If you left and still thought it was "the truth" what helped you change your mind?

    Hi Lee, as always, provocative questions.

    The year I left was around 1983 late fall into spring 1984.

    How old was I? I was 21

    No internet back then, well...to the extent that I knew it.

    I left for personal reasons. It was a rough go. It wasn't necessarily related to articles per se, but my own 'coming to terms' with things.

    After leaving, noticing that I was not going to be 'struck down' and that I could still get a 'job' and obtain an 'apartment' etc., despite my post DF (I assume I was) status. For a person that had lost favour from god (Jehovah). I was still able to live, work and eat. Go figure!?

    My mind changed, after I had many years AWAY from the borg. It was a long and drawn out process.

    Remember, I am 20 years now, away from the mind control of the WTBTS.

    Great question Lee.

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    Thank you all for your answers.This has been very enlightening

  • Dansk
    Dansk

    • What year did you leave? 2003
    • How old were you when you left? 49
    • Did the internet have anything to do with your decision to leave? Absolutely - it's a mine of TRUE information.
    • If you left before you got on the internet what reading did you do about the WTS or cults that helped you make your decision?

    I was reading Crisis of Conscience and going on the internet at the same time (I went on the internet first).

    • What was the one most important reason that helped you decide to leave (even if the decision was made for you through a DFing)? I found out I'd been lied to. Once I knew that, I was out of there faster than lightning.
    • If you left and still thought it was "the truth" what helped you change your mind? "Still thought it was the truth?" Don't be silly
  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    So far Dansk you are the only one to say the internet playing a big role to start with. But what on earth got you past all the warnings not to examine the teachings and to do your own research?

  • Dansk
    Dansk

    Hi Lee,

    But what on earth got you past all the warnings not to examine the teachings and to do your own research?

    First of all I was sick and tired of witnessing hypocrisy and the hegemony of the elders in my own congregation. I was sick and tired of being hurt and of going to the congregation to be spiritually upbuilt, only to come away feeling empty and patronised.

    As a writer, I'm on the computer every day and occasionally I'd type in 'Jehovah's Witnesses' into my search engine. Invariably, as well as the Watchtower's official site, there were numerous "apostate" ones as well. To be honest, at first I immediately turned away from these thinking that Jehovah was watching me. But the more I felt in pain and anguish after leaving a meeting, the braver I became.

    It all really started by my typing in '607 BCE'. I'd become extremely suspicious of that date as I couldn't find it for the fall of Jerusalem in any literature or websites other than Watchtower. Once I realised 607 BCE was baloney, I knew 1914 couldn't hold up. Once 1914 couldn't hold up I immediately asked myself "So just WHO are those guys on the GB who say they are anointed?" I then also asked myself, if the 144,000 are supposed to be providing us with our spiritual food at the proper time, how come those of the 144,000 supposedly scattered around the world aren't giving us such food - just the GB? Supposedly, ALL the anointed are equal - so why the anomaly? And, if the anointed are EQUAL how is it there are no women on the GB (after all, angels are sexless, so why the discrimination for these who were supposedly to become spirit creatures)?

    I'd already read enough on the internet to convince me I had to exit. I purchased Crisis of Conscience while I was recovering from realising Watchtower had been conning me for 19 years. Reading Ray Franz's book made me see my assumptions were correct. Watchtower is a brain-washing, lying, hypocritical, murdering organisation that subjects its members to fear. The rest is history - I'm out, I'm free and I'm wonderfully happy!

    Ian

  • Jahna
    Jahna

    * What year did you leave? 1997

    * How old were you when you left? 31

    * Did the internet have anything to do with your decision to leave?

    Yes and no. Yes I found out that worldly people were not as bad as all that, and that they cared for me more then the congregation did. Those worldly people of course were found online as I would never have thought to look offline for such association.

    * If you left before you got on the internet what reading did you do about the WTS or cults that helped you make your decision? N/A

    * What was the one most important reason that helped you decide to leave (even if the decision was made for you through a Dfing).

    Realizing it wasn?t me being a bad person which made me feel as if I was a leper in the congregation. I spent years thinking God didn?t really want me, but I kept staying for the children. When I finally left I left still thinking Jehovah?s holy spirit had left me and I was honestly thinking, I was going to die. It didn?t make much difference back then if it was sooner rather then later.


    * If you left and still thought it was "the truth" what helped you change your mind?

    Re learning how to live life again. I have never even thought to research anything to do with Witnesses until about a month ago. I have felt all along, if God doesn?t want me, so what, it?s my life and I am going to live it my way. I am not a bad person, if the congregation doesn?t like who I am, so be it. I don?t need them in my life anymore. I no longer yearn to be part of something that made me feel so lonely for years. After reading this site and a few more, I am beginning to question a whole lot more then, brotherly affection. I have to admit, the Dateline show hit me hard. Now I am happy I am no longer part of the congregation.

    Jahna

    Forever trusting in who we are, and nothing else matters....Metallica

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