Do you think some people are better off with the borg?

by new light 28 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Doubtfully Yours
    Doubtfully Yours

    My parents would be completely lost without the Org. All their life's activities and friends revolve around the WTBTS.

    DY

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    YES -- some people actually like a routine and having every aspect of their lives controlled -- there are one or two who I really think are better off staying in the borg

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    Given all the positive responses, I have come to the conclusion that some people are "better off" being heroin addicts.

    Q.E.D.

  • El blanko
    El blanko

    It is a strait-jacket for some and a liberator for others. Depends upon how you deal with the institution. Or indeed any institution. If a man or woman can use it is a vehicle for their own Christian righteousness, then it may serve it's purpose well.

    I have a friend who is on the outside and he "had" been involved for nearly 27 years as a servant. His mind will not leave him alone and for the sake of his sanity, I hope he goes back. He has no coping mechanism in place and no perception of Christianity beyond the JW organization.

    It is hideous to observe.

  • Bulldog
    Bulldog

    For some people it is more like the Matrix, and they don't want to be unplugged.

  • Flash
    Flash

    Interesting thought Bulldog, witnesses who know better but don't want things to change...how sad.

  • Jomavrick
    Jomavrick

    Yes,

    Religion, no matter what brand it is, can be a positive infulence on people. Some people need the feeling of community, the sense of belonging, a "purpose" which they otherwise lack in their lives. Some people find that here, others find it there - and obvioulsy some have detached themselves from any identifiable relious form and function well.

    We are all different, funny creatures.

  • avengers
    avengers
    Religion, no matter what brand it is, can be a positive infulence on people
    I have come to the conclusion that some people are "better off" being heroin addicts.
    Religion is opium for the people

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost
    Given all the positive responses, I have come to the conclusion that some people are "better off" being heroin addicts.

    I find myself sympathising with Nathan's comment.

    Perhaps the question has not been fully understood i.e. "better off" - what are we talking about? Yes, some people, like my own family, are hooked on the routine and so on but this is far different from saying they are "better off' in the Borg.

    Let's get this straight. The Borg is a cult. It has "blinded the minds of the unbelievers". It has harboured pedophiles and is guilty of the most heinous hypocrisy when it comes to dealing with its own flock. How on earth could anyone be better off there? The WTS is fond of repeating the Bible text "Get out of her my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins." It works the other way too and should be applied to the Borg itself. Get out of her, indeed!

  • peacefulpete
    peacefulpete

    In a world that is at times cruel and unjust we may argue that delusion is a positive. But what if those delusions become cruel and unjust in themselves? All of us at one time were without a moral compass or felt security in the utopian dreams of the WT. This did not make the world better for us did it? If it had we would still be there. Some people will always seek some form of escape. Some of these are more destructive than others. Those that leave the JWs and yet feel an irrepressible need for comfort easily and quickly find one. Many here now are absorbed in eastern religions others some form of mainstream Xtianity. Ultimately if cautious about not turning to another unhealthy group their lives are improved.

    Then there is the social cost of permitting injustice and social irresponsibilty to exist in a cult so as not to rock the boat for those involved. Steven Hassan and psychologists familiar with cults address this very question. They have heard countless times family members of those in cults like the Hari Krishnas say things like, "He's much happier now than before the cult." or " before the cult he was a drug addict, they've helped him clean up his life." or "they give im the structure he needs".

    However, cults assume a role that is better filled by family and friends and trained social workers. Cults trade one problem for another. To those who need social comfort they get it but at the cost of their family, careers, and independence.

    People do deal with serious problems without being JWs. And in many cases without religion.

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