Maybe I'm not a cultured as I though. :- /

by Elsewhere 49 Replies latest jw friends

  • orangefatcat
    orangefatcat

    I am not a fan of Picasso, however I drool at the paintings of Rembrant, Micheal Angelo and Renoir, Rapheal, Cheret, Gainsbourough, Hieronymous Bosch, Hans Holbein. See to me these men as well as several others are the true masters of art.

    I know what your thinking, that all kinds of art are what makes this world what it is and that is so true. I like to capture art and life in the true sense of the word. Art as it appears rather then abstract or cubist, imppressionalism etc..

    Orangefatcat.OrangeFatCat 15

    Painter Mona Lisa Starry Night Creation Of Adam Dances At The Barre Treachery Of Images


  • Thunder Rider
    Thunder Rider

    As Sheila was so nice to point out, I am very opinionated as to what "is" art and what isn't.

    I can understand the differet interpetations of reality that lead to differing styles, but for me the determining factor that makes a work "art" is wether or not it took talent to create it.
    If it looks like a cat ran across a palette, walked over a canvas and then chummed a furball on it, then it ain't art.

    It takes talent to make an apple look like an apple.

    Thunder ===]>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

  • Shutterbug
    Shutterbug
    It takes talent to make an apple look like an apple.

    Indeed it does take talent Thunder, that is one reason I enjoy photography. Just aim and press the little button, although photography is a little more complicated that "just pressing the button."

  • Thunder Rider
    Thunder Rider

    Hey Bug,


    The Crocus are blooming and I intend to have Sheila take some COLOR photos and post them on the site. The Tulips will be up soon too. Gotta love spring time.


    Back to the art question though, the same argument can be applied to music. Has anyone else heard Farkle's stuff?

    I checked it out the other day and you can hear the artistic skill in his music. That is art. I was thinking about how sad that music such as his is grouped unfairly with the crap that bleeds from the open sunroofs of some of the vehicles I drive alongside during my days. Cursing and extolling violence and sex to a drum beat is not art!


    (prepared to be lambasted)


    Thunder ===]>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    thunder,

    : Back to the art question though, the same argument can be applied to music. Has anyone else heard Farkle's stuff?

    : I checked it out the other day and you can hear the artistic skill in his music. That is art. I was thinking about how sad that music such as his is grouped unfairly with the crap that bleeds from the open sunroofs of some of the vehicles I drive alongside during my days. Cursing and extolling violence and sex to a drum beat is not art!


    : (prepared to be lambasted)

    Not by me, you're not! Thanks for the kind words!

    Farkel

  • Valis
    Valis
    Cursing and extolling violence and sex to a drum beat is not art!

    O ye of little faith...

    Sincerely,

    District Overbeer

  • Beans
    Beans

    Personally I enjoy looking at art that catches my eye, like water paintings that are bright. I would be more interested if I could actually paint and draw. For some art can be the work they do, for me it is an art bending conduit and making it look uniform!

  • got my forty homey?
    got my forty homey?

    To me art is a picture I can buy at Walmart of a farmhouse with a barn and a covered wood bridge that I can buy for 29.99. I put it up in my den and I was happy. I really dont know anything about art movements etc, put its nice to look at, such as the nice pictures bisious put up.

  • Phantom Stranger
    Phantom Stranger

    The following is excerpted from the Foreword to Picasso's War: The Destruction of Guernica, and the Masterpiece That Changed the World, by Russell Martin. Even if you hate the painting, I think it's worth the read.

    It was an enormous canvas, so large that Picasso needed a ladder and brushes strapped to sticks in order to paint its heights, a canvas so grand that he had little doubt of its ability to captivate the citizens of the world who would see it exhibited beside the Seine in only a few weeks' time. Working from the ladder when he needed to, and sometimes on his knees, the artist began to paint on May 11, 1937, and he did so with a hot and focused intensity that was unusually keen even for him. He was determined to transform the vacant canvas into a monumental mural that would disturb and shock its viewers, alerting them to the horror that had occurred in a town in Spain a fortnight before, and reminding them as well that people similarly suffered unimaginable terror in every place and time.

    Four months before, in the gray trough of the Parisian winter, Pablo Ruiz Picasso, at age 56 already widely considered the world's foremost living painter, had been visited at his home and studio in the rue la Boétie by a delegation that included Max Aub, cultural delegate of the Spanish embassy in Paris, and Catalan architect Josep Lluis Sert, who recently had completed his design for the Spanish pavilion that would be part of the much-heralded world's fair scheduled to open in Paris in May. The men hoped to convince the artistwhose acquiescence they knew they by no means could count onto paint something bold and arresting specifically for the pavilion, an important canvas that would lend the modest building a cachet it otherwise would not have. As part of their effort to persuade him, the visitors suggested that the painting would remind the world that Picasso was a son of Spain, and that he, like every true patriot, abhorred the rebellion by members of the Spanish military that had thrown the country into civil war six months before and that by now very seriously threatened the survival of the nation's nascent democracy.

    Picasso listened, but was filled with misgivings: he had never created a painting as large as the one Sert hoped would fill a focal wall in the pavilion's courtyard; he disliked the notion of being commissioned to create an artwork; and despite his strong support for the embattled Spanish Republic, the mural necessarily would be something of an overt piece of propagandaand the great Picasso was not a poster artist, after all. By the time his fellow Spaniards departed, the artist had gone as far as to assure them of his ongoing devotion to the cause of the republic, and that he would certainly like to be of assistance, but he had not specifically agreed to take up the mural project. He did promise his visitors he would give great thought to possible subjects for the mural, and he had continued to think but do nothing more until news reports reached Paris on April 27 that a town in northern Spain had been destroyed the day before by bombers of the Nazi Condor Legion acting under the orders of Spain's insurgent generals. According to rapidly mounting radio and newspaper reports, the town of Gernikaas its name is spelled in Basque, pronounced Gair-KNEE-kuhhad been attacked during the busiest hours of a regional market day, and the slaughter of civilians and the destruction of homes, schools, businesses, and churches had been its only brutal goal. Picasso, like people throughout Europe and the rest of the world, responded to the news with immediate outrage, and at last he knew he had no choice but to go to war himselfto create the mural in both bold support for the Spanish Republic and in fierce opposition to the fascist tide that was engulfing his beloved homeland.

    From http://www.picassoswar.com/prologue.html (the website for the book)

  • Thunder Rider
    Thunder Rider

    Phantom Stranger,

    I checked out the link and looked at the painting. While I appreciate the meaning he was trying to put across, the time and energy expended to do so, to me that gives it little value. After all the Edsil was created for a specific purpose and much time, skill and energy was spent in its coming to be and how is it remembered?

    Valis,
    We all know that you ONLY listen to Johnny Mathis on 8-tracks. So there!

    Thunder ==}>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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