Bush Ads & 9-11 (page 3)

ThiChi

""The "insight" of the Bush administration is focused on fundamentalist Protestant principles..."

You are right, the same (mostly) principles which has made this country great.

SixofNine

Sixer, using your logic: 1. Saddam would still be in power 2. Hitler would still be in power 3. Stalin's USSR would be operating at top speed And people who used your logic would have been turned into a bar of sope or working in some slave camp somewhere. Thank God your logic is in the minority.... Bush is a real leader and History will be on his side.

Uh, no. But if we continue to let afraid-of-their-own-shadow asshole rightwingers bully us into stupid actions, my daughter's future may be screwed; due to the idiotic "tough guy" mentality of frightened American pussies (not really tough at all) such as the right represents. Fake braun and bluster for brains will only get people killed. Of course, some people will have to die, I just want to make sure it's the right people .

Phantom Stranger

If he wants to run on his record, why isn't he showing Saddam and victory in Baghdad and Afghanistan, instead of something that he literally had nothing to do with - firefighters taking out dead people?

I have no problem on him running on his record - but I think he's afraid to mention war.

heathen

sixofNine-- I have to say I agree to some extent with your last post . The Bush administration is trying their best to make the world think the US is the answer to all the insanity . The US had no right whatsoever to do what it is doing, sending troops to police other countries is not what I think the US stands for . To add insult to injury this guy thinks God is directing him and the country . I don't think this John Wayne mentality is something we need leading our government . Bush is a nut case .

patio34

A different point of view from http://www.calpundit.com/

9/11 IMAGERY....You know, I've been trying to work up some outrage over the use of 9/11 imagery in the new Bush ads, but it's just not happening. I really don't see anything wrong with it.

Granted, there's a thin line between legitimate symbolism and outright exploitation, and if Bush ends up, say, laying a cornerstone for a new skyscraper at Ground Zero during the Republican convention, he will have gone way over the line. But alluding to 9/11 and trying to take credit for his response? That seems like pretty standard issue politics.

In fact, what I really wish is that Democrats weren't so queasy about this kind of stuff. Frankly, I'd like to see John Kerry run an ad using the same kind of imagery and hitting Bush hard on his foreign policy failures. After all, there's plenty to criticize in Bush's reaction to 9/11, and there's nothing wrong with Democrats using imagery that shows they're as serious about it as Bush is.

Pat

Freded

I personally don't see anything wrong with his ads. In fact they don't even look like political ads. The ones complaining about them are partisan critics. I don't see where all this hatred for GB comes from. I guess it comes about as fair play since so many people hated Clinton. I think that we will be a stabilizing force in the middle east because of us being in Iraq. If you think that we shouldn't be in Iraq then maybe you need to go there and see why we shouldn't be there. If you have never lived in a suppressive regime like Iraq then shut-up for you know nothing of what you say.

Phantom Stranger

"If you have never lived in a suppressive regime like Iraq then shut-up for you know nothing of what you say. "

Well, that certainly elevates the discussion to the high level that serves everyone. Actually, "shut up" isn't hyphenated - not like "dumb-ass", which can be properly hyphenated. And I think you meant "repressive", not "suppressive".

Freded

i stand corrected on proper english.

Phantom Stranger

If the nation decided to overthrow a brutal dictator because he was a brutal dictator, that would be an impressive demonstration of national unity put to good use.

But if someone uses another argument to convince said nation to invade, that turns out to have been an invalid argument - i.e., that didn't hold water - and after the fact, states "no, it wasn't about WMD's - we did it because he was a brutal dictator - remember?", then the outcome may ultimately be a positive one (that is way too soon to tell, btw... Americans easily overestimate how much the rest of the world wants us to tell them what to do) , but those techniques used to convince the public smack of deception, manipulation, and condescension.

And that's why Bush's poll numbers suck (well, that and lousy job numbers every month)...

Phantom Stranger

Oh, and the stories about the complaints seem to focus on the victim's families' and firefighters that objected... not 100% by any means, but not all "partisan critics".

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