Are you a doer or a talker? (page 3)

Sirona

Maverick

I think you're putting people into convenient little boxes, and I don't agree with that. Generalising to say that we all fit in one of three categories just doesn't make any sense.

We all "do" and we all "talk" and sometimes it is healthy not to "do" too much!

Just because we haven't written a book or we don't run a successful business doesn't mean we're not valuable! There are people out there, likely people reading this thread, who live life and make a really good contribution to the world, but they're not necessarily ultra "successful" by other peoples standards.

There was a guy on TV yesterday who has written a book about how we all tend to set ourselves standards and how sometimes we need to step back and look at whose standards they really are. Who says we should be writing books to consider ourselves a "doer"?

Those people out there who are not doing much, well yes, I agree that some might need to learn that sitting back isn't going to make anything change. The thing is, we're all in the place we are because of circumstances, upbringing, intelligence, ability, drive, compassion, understanding, empathy....etc. etc.

This reminds me of people who say that if you're fat, you are lazy. It is true that some fat people are lazy. It is also true that some fat people are fat because they've never learned how to eat properly, or they've never learned to cook. Some people are fat because of a medical disorder. Then you get someone coming along and saying "hey, are you a doer or a talker? are you going to do it, or just talk about it?" Whilst that attitude fits some, it certainly doesn't fit all.

Sirona

got my forty homey?

(Raising hand in air)

I'm the fat that fall into the category of lazy and loser!

Nosferatu

Her friend backed out at the last minute. So my daughter got on line brought and airplane ticket, which she paid for, and flew over there herself.

Interesting subject as usual Maverick! I had to learn this for myself as well. There used to be a time when if I didn't have a friend to do an activity with, I would end up not doing it at all. That has all changed. I've gone to the bar by myself, gone to concerts by myself, etc etc. I've learned that if you spend your life waiting for other people, you're going to grow old and die. It's just not worth relying on other people to accomplish the things you want to do.

franklin J

doer

WhyNow2000

What about your Mav...where do you fit in?

Does happiness depend where one fits in?

I do what I want to do---doer=====>self employed(cpa), rental properties, travel, travel, travel...all this after I began to fade from JW (5years)

I talk what I want to do ---I am a talker=======>open a restaurant/bar

I critize what I want to do --critisize=====>can't open a restaurant if I am always traveling.

Maverick

Sirona brings out a good point. I am generalizing and people do not fit into little boxes. By asking the question, "Are you are doer or a talker?", my goal is to get people to think. I could just ask, "Are you a thinker?", but I think that lacks punch! By asking questions about ourselves and seeing other people defend their values we step outside our normal thinking process. Every now and again we need to put ourseves through a little mental revolution and shake things up. And being the little radical that I am I live for this! We all create things twice, once in our minds and then when the second time when we follow through and the thing is done! Some people stop at the first creation and never see the second. We all have many faces, but buried in there is the prime face, the core face, the one you either are comfortable with or you run and hide from. Asking questions helps draw the real you out!

I'm a doer, a smooth talker and my own worst critic! Maverick

Golf

What's wrong with a doer being his/her 'best' critic?

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Sirona

Maverick

Sirona brings out a good point. I am generalizing and people do not fit into little boxes. By asking the question, "Are you are doer or a talker?", my goal is to get people to think.

OK well thanks for clarifying. I agree, we need a shake up now and then to get us thinking....or is that doing...

Sirona

Satans little helper

I'm both. I generally talk about doing something until I get my arse in gear and get around to doing it.

My wife and I decided thaat we were going to move to Australia 2 years ago when we were having dinner watching the sun go down over Ayers rock one night. Two years later that talk (and the constant talk about it since) has transformed into action as I have finally put the paper work in to get my visa.

I procrastinate, I hate DIY but Clare has forced my hand into starting a load of jobs in the house. I would much rather waste hours on end playing on the computer but occassionally feel spurred to action and can be quite productive. I've also travelled independantly to the far east and Canada so I'm no couch potato.

Most people drift through life being comfortable and not challenging their boundaries. If you are happy with your life as it is then why not? Personally I have ambitions beyond that but would never knock people for taking the easy option.

Maverick

My issue, as my lady friends like to call it is that people will talk to me about doing something and asking me about it. I will tell them what I can. And I will think about how I can help them for the next few days. When I see them again the first thing I ask them about is how they are doing getting this thing they wanted accomplished? And if they tell me they did nothing, I get annoyed. If they tell me about some obstacle or problem they have run into then I am OK with them and will help them if I can. When people follow through and go to the next level, at least they are doing something! After a while you will notice that people fall into a pattern. And I need to know if these people are time wasters or not. Yes that is judgemental, and yes people do change, but generally people in their 40's and 50's are not going to change the type of person they are! Maverick

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