Absolute truth of life's mysteries can not really be proven ..,,right? (page 3)

LyinEyes

Exactly Cicetrix,,,,,,,,I will enjoy my search,,,,,,,even my research,,,,,lol,,,,,my experiences as I find my way. I just hope that on my death bed, I have found a place that is one of peace ,,,,,,,and that I have lived my life to the best I could be and that I have raised my kids right.

Anything after my death that I may receive,,,,,a heavenly hope, or whatever will just be the cherry on top of the sundae ya know. The whole expereince of life is hard,,,,,but very well worth it and I hope there is more after we die,,,,,,,,,then I think , that is when we will have the answers.

For now, we have to be content with our own faith, and be the best we can be . Trying to say for sure what is real, truth, not truth , etc.... is something some of us may not know never be able to know until we are on the other side.

Maybe that is the way it is meant to be. For what reason I am not sure. But if all the answers to life were given to us,,,,,we would be just like JW robots,,,,,,,content to be told what to do,,,,,and never really living life, searching, seeking, and activily trying to grow as a person.

Rabbit

They JW, mainly GB and elders,,,,,,,,,,are Pharisees,,,,,gone wild.

That sounds like some video on late nite TV..."College Girls Gone Wild" or "X-JW's Gone Wild Eating Chili in Dallas"

Seriously, tho' it is rough trying to figure out just what to do. Somethings, are easy for me doctrine wise, like 'God/Jesus ???' the most simple explanation is Jesus is God's Son. The Bible says it so many times, Jesus 'talks' to his Father, prays to him, thinks his Father has 'forsaken him' I just don't think he was talking to himself. There are a couple of scriptures that some could take one way or the other and say Jesus is God, but with all the chances of mistakes in translation, I would not pin anything down on 1 or 2 sentences. I'll go with volume on that.

HellFire that one is easy for me...I just don't believe that a God of Love, which I believe he is, could not possibly justify killing people in a judgement, but not REALLY killing 'em...toasting them in excruciating pain forever n' ever. Really, in our shitty imperfect lives, pollutted & damaged brains, he would hold our toes to the brimstone...forever? No...that one at least is easy for me.

I figure there were only 3 perfect people ever on earth and 2/3rds of them could not keep from sinning in even 'little' sins, damn. What possible chance do we have? If Adam & Eve are true, God evidently let them live hundreds of years. So, if the dubs what to try and scare me with dying at Armegedden or the Catholics or the almighty Southern Baptists want to mess with my mind and scare me with HellFire, I will point the way to Heaven with my middle finger. \_i!ii

Lee

LyinEyes

So very true Rabbit on all you said.

LOL at the hellfire thing.......well, I am not going to concern myself with this one so much.....I will just be damn sure to get my act together so I can keep my ass out of hell. I guess if we do at least try we should feel the fire on our bums , eh?

I too feel that God and Jesus are Father and Son,,,,,,,according to my understanding of the Bible. But I do feel that there is some kind of spirit union that we as humans can not fully understand because we don't have that kind of union with other humans. Just my opinion. But I do think that God,,,,,,,gave Jesus all the power to rule the earth and people and to make the decicisions that he did.

When he called out to his Father on the Cross,,,,,,,,,he asked why he had forsaken him? Was Jesus doubting , did he think he Father had totally abaddoned him? Maybe in his beaten, almost dead,, mind, not to mention just pure broke down as anyone has ever been,,,,,,,,he was calling on his Father in prayer. And as a human,,,,,in pain,,,,,,,,wanted an answer from his Father. I don't think that was a sin,,,,and I don't think we are sinning for asking questions, for feeling abanddoned at times. Just because we think God is not there, doesnt mean He isnt I suppose.

Country Girl

Not to hijack the thread but.. why do you use commas in the place of periods, Dede? Just a question.

Love

CG

LyinEyes

I dont always use them in place of periods. I just try to type, pausing, etc. as I do in real life. For some reason,,,,,,,( haha,,,,,pause) it really pisses some people off, you are not the first to say this to me.

But the main reason is........................................Because I want to,,,,,,,,,because I can!!!!!

willyloman

LyinEyes: Got to fatherleo.com on the web and order a tape called, "Overcoming religious addiction and religious abuse." It'll cost about 10 bucks, worth every penny. A former Catholic priest who became an Episcopalian and is now "on a metaphysical journey," he's a recovered alcoholic who presents brilliantly on the similarities between addicts/alcoholics and those trapped in religiously abusive organizations (like you-know-who).

I've found him extremely helpful in allowing me to toss out the garbage I've carried around from nearly 30 years of dubdom.

He talks about the distinctive characteristics of high control, abusive religious groups, without even mentioning JW's (although the shoe certainly fits).

One of the characteristics of an abusive, mind control religious group is to teach you that one and only one group has it all right, all the time. Leo will help you see that as humans, we DON'T have all the answers, nor will we ever, that it is simply not in us to have all the answers. And when you hear him talk about it, you will be at peace with the fact that FREEDOM to ask questions, and to find your OWN answers, is fundamental to the discovery of spirituality.

What you are now feeling is good, not bad; it's a part of the recovery process. If you're feeling that way, you're getting well. Just keep going, you'll be fine.

Rabbit

But the main reason is........................................Because I want to,,,,,,,,,because I can!!!!!

Eyes, I love ya...having lived in Luzyana from 2 years old, til 15, you do write jus like ya' talk down there...it's music to my ears! Don't change a thang.

Since I was Texan and both my parents too, I remember being asked by the teacher and kids in my class, "Hey, ware u frum boy, ya' kinda sound like a Yankee?" I said, "Naw, dang it, ahm not a Yankee -- ah ahm from Texus!" They did not believe me in that little high spot in that swamp called Houma. It's about 90 miles SW of New Awlens (Orleans) yes, there is actually land down there!

The whole expereince of life is hard,,,,,but very well worth it and I hope there is more after we die,,,,,,,,,then I think , that is when we will have the answers.

Hell yes, it is worth it ya' know...(excuse me),,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but,,,,, being married, knowing love, having 3 beautiful children, eating an Orange or Chicken Fried steak or sitting on a mountain in awe of what I see and feel...if that's all there is...it's OK. I don't want to die, but if I was going to -- I'd say Thanks for the ride!

LyinEyes

Why thank ya Rabbit very much.........nice to know another fellow Louisianian. I may have said this to you before , but the PO in our congregation was from Houma, LA. You might know him....lol. Lots of freaky storys from way down your way. I am up around the Shreveport area,,,,and talk more like a Texan I guess, although they may disown me because of my southern twang....lol.

I like the way you express yourself , you can tell by the way someone writes, their zest for life, and in your last few sentences , I say ........Can ya give me an Amen...... I say, I say, can ya give me an Amen on that!!!!!!!!!?????!!!!!!! I guarrrrrrrrannntee!!

Rabbit

uh-huuuuuuuh,,,, and crawfish pie!

Absolute truth of life's mysteries can not really be proven ..,,right?

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