by imallgrowedup 32 Replies latest watchtower scandals
For me, the real benefit to uncovering the UN information is to benefit those who are de-Towering.
Exactly!
However, in some rare cases it can also lay the foundation, if presented right, to those who still wear those shaded rose coloured glasses. A little cognitive dissonance here and little congnitive dissonance there.
Also, in very rare cases, it is very fasinating research for those geoscientists/investigators who are non JWs and do this stuff as their scientific hobby - snicker.
hawk
So, just ask them if they can join the Y, even if its just to use the pool or library. Then, when they say no, ask why not?
CZAR
That's a good one Czar.. You said
just ask them if they can join the Y, even if its just to use the pool or library.
That is a really good lead in.......
sincerely
Special K
Quotes says:
Objection: ... this [is an] example of theocratic warfare.
Response: see previous point. Add: if that were the case, then why stop the NGO association when it becomes public knowledge? The war is still going on, and whatever could be gained by having NGO association could continue right up until the UN decides to dissassociate the Watchtower. If it was such a good, clever, strategy, why did the Watchtower terminate it earlier than necessary? Sorry, that one doesn't pass the smell test.
Consider this: If your enemy has a gun (arrow) trained on you, what is the smartest thing for you to do? Just stand there and get shot? Or, run? Of course the wise thing to do is to run. But, how will you run? In a straight line? Or, in a zigzag fashion? Of course a moving target is much harder to hit than a sitting target.
*** Rbi8 Psalm 60:4 ***4 You have given to those fearing you a signal To flee zigzag on account of the bow. Se'lah.
*** yb93 217 Malaysia ***Alfred Wicke’s fiancée, Thelma, was sailing from Sydney to Singapore to marry Alfred and join him in the pioneer work at Penang. However, when her ship was several days out from Perth, the outbreak of World War II was announced. All windows and portholes in the ship were blacked out, and a zigzag course through the Indian Ocean became necessary to dodge possible enemy submarines. But Thelma arrived safely, and their wedding took place a week later. Then they drove the 500 miles [800 km] to Penang, where Sister Wicke became the first Australian sister to serve as a pioneer in Malaya.
*** w88 3/1 15 My Life in Jehovah's Spirit-Directed Organization ***On Monday morning, August 24, 1942, two Scotland Yard detectives arrested me for deportation. They took me by train to Glasgow, Scotland, where I was held overnight in the medieval Barlinnie Prison. The next day I was escorted on board the British cruiser S.S. Hilary, where I continued under custody. It took 13 days for our convoy of 52 ships to cross the Atlantic in zigzag fashion to avoid German submarines. Escaping their torpedoes, we made it safely to Halifax, Canada! Now set free, the next day I went on by train to New York, arriving on September 10.
So, in answer to Quotes question: "Why did the WTS stop the NGO association?" In view of the above, that souldn't be too hard to comprehend? Such manuever was merely the continued usage of the art of Theocratic Warfare. If the WTS had remained in that fixed position it would have been a sitting duck ... so it MOVED!
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This very true Gary. At one time It use to bother me that there were no African American or any non white Governing Body members. Today if the entire GB was latino's, Indians and African Americans I wouldn't care one bit. I have had my full with the JW's and all organized religons.
Well for me there would be copies of three documents.
1/ The picture that used to scare us as children showing the UN building and the dragon being pelted with fire from heaven at the big A.
2/ The Awake article supporting the UN
3/ The recent letter
That should say it all.
http://quotes.watchtower.ca/united_nations.htm
Use thier own litterature against them..
7 Since World War I, we have seen the larger fulfillment of Jesus' sign recorded in Matthew chapter 24. Yet, recall his words: "When you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation . . . standing in a holy place, . . . then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains." (Matthew 24:15, 16) This aspect of the prophecy must have a fulfillment in our time too.
8 Demonstrating the confidence of Jehovah's servants that this prophecy would be fulfilled, The Watchtower of January 1, 1921, focused on it in connection with developments in the Middle East. Subsequently, in its December 15, 1929, issue, on page 374, The Watchtower definitively said: "The whole tendency of the League of Nations is to turn the people away from God and from Christ, and it is therefore a desolating thing, the product of Satan, and an abomination in the sight of God." So in 1919 "the disgusting thing" appeared. In time, the League gave way to the United Nations. Jehovah's Witnesses have long exposed these human peace organizations as disgusting in God's sight.
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15 Revelation depicts "a scarlet-colored wild beast" that exists for a time, disappears, and then returns. (Revelation 17:3, 8) This beast is supported by world rulers. Details supplied in the prophecy help us to identify this symbolic beast as a peace organization that came into existence in 1919 as the League of Nations (a "disgusting thing") and that is now the United Nations. Revelation 17:16, 17 shows that God will yet put it into the hearts of certain human rulers who are prominent in this "beast" to desolate the world empire of false religion. That attack marks the outbreak of the great tribulation.
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Sincerely,
District Overbeer
Objection: It's no big deal.
Answer: Why then, did they keep it a secret for ten years, then dissasociate only once it was uncovered?
I personly believe most all things happen for a reason. How do we not know this information as come out now for a reason? I am not an evangelist, but I will not keep quiet. I sent several emails to persons I know will at least listen. Now it is up to them.
Bryan
You can tell them to call themselves. If you follow the links, they will tell you, if it comes from them or not.
Department of Public Information
Suite S-1070L
United Nations, New York, N.Y. 10017
tel: (212) 963-6842
fax: (212) 963-6914/2819
e-mail [email protected]
I think that the most effective objection would be: if it was so innocent, why stop it then? like it was said before. By the way, I am trying to get people to write them about translating the letter into Spanish and other languages.
Faraon
Faraon,
Randy has the spanish version here:
TEXT IN SPANISH of the U.N. letter: WORD DOC format HTML format
Thanks Randy.
sKally
