Sick of "prophecies"

lookingnow22

I'm going to ramble (rant) again!

I am so sick and tired of hearing about this prophecy in the bible, and that prophecy in the bible. I'm sick of hearing they were fulfilled by this person, that organization, some event. I'm tired of sifting through 10 different bible books to draw an unreasonable conclusion about the importance of a specific date, or time.

I realize that the entire bible was written for our benefit, and that we can learn from things that were prophecied and fulfilled, but it seems pointless to sit for hours, and study about something that hasn't happened yet, and that we can't prove will.

I've finally decided just to focus on the "spirit" of the bible. I'm not saying that this will change who I am greatly, but it eases my mind a whole lot.

DAMIT I NEED A BIGGER SOAPBOX!!!

Looking

proplog2

I actually like Bible prophecy but find much of the rest - history, narrative, battles, creation, flood, vengeful God- hard to handle.

The reason I like prophecy is that it presents the possibility that maybe someone in the sky will save man from his doom. I am convinced, based on an evolutionary orientation, that it is impossible for the human animal to escape the "selfishness" that aided its survival. Selfishness is the main motor for life. You don't have life without a boundary - a self - and in the case of humans an "EGO". Everything was fine until we developed weapons of mass destruction to preserve our "National Egos"

The Bible indicates a point will be reached of "Great Tribualtion" at which time help will come from the sky. We are given One primary warning ("when you catch sight of the disgusting thing standing in a holy place") to which the "chosen" are to react with flight.

Although I am an Atheist with regards to some all powerful, all knowing Person/God I am open to the Idea that in this great universe of multiple dimensions there may be a federation of well-meaning civilizations that may have an interest in helping us through the great impasse that developes when you mix advanced technology with a selfish orientation.

I feel perfectly comfortable tolerating the nonsense of the Bible as a necessary medium for transmitting ideas that will help human society evolve.

If you click on my Web-Page link you can get some idea of how I attempt to deal with prophecy.

You Know

I hate to tell ya this pal, but the prophecies foretold how some would develop your kind of attitude: "For it is a rebellious people...who have said to the ones seeing, 'You must not see,' and to the ones having visions, 'You must not envision for us any straightforward things. Speak to us smooth things; envision deceptive things Turn aside from the way; deviate from the path. Cause the Holy One of Israel to cease just on account of us.'" --- Isaiah 30:10

/ You Know

Mulan

One way to deal with Bible prophecy is to look at it as already fulfilled. The Bible was written 2000+ years ago, for a people long gone from this planet. My belief is that all the prophecies have had their fulfillment, and do not apply to us. The prinicples are ones we can learn, and benefit from. To see the prophecies as anything else is frustrating and a waste of time. Get on with your life. This is the one you get. Don't waste a minute of it.

lookingnow22

proplog2,

I do admire the amount of thought and study that you have put into prophecy. Your web pages contain an impressive amount of information. I don't discount the possibilities that you or anyone else present, I just feel that they can no longer be the focus of what I believe or how I live.

You Know,

Which part of that scripture, specifically, am I fulfilling? I haven't told anyone to 'not see'. I also haven't said that I only want to hear 'smooth things', or 'deceptive things'. Are you saying that that scripture prophesies a general non-caring attitude for prophecy? Because I would have to disagree. I'm not trying to argue, but would like to hear more specifically your thoughts.

Looking

lookingnow22

You Know,

Upon my further reviewing of Isaiah 10, I'm not even sure why you are referring to that verse as a prophecy. It doesn't say "There will be", or "There will come", or anything like that. It appears to me to be addressing a specific people, in a specific time. It does say, "These are a rebelious people".

I can understand you perhaps saying that people today could be "like them", or even draw a "parallel" to ones today. But what is your reasoning for it on being a prophecy?

Thanks,
Looking

You Know

I can understand you perhaps saying that people today could be "like them", or even draw a "parallel" to ones today. But what is your reasoning for it on being a prophecy?

Every chapter in Isaiah was some future fulfillment. The 30th chapter is Jehovah's judgments upon his people who are about to go down to Egypt for refuge. Egypt of course has a modern counterpart, but you are sick of that kind of thing. But verses 18-21 indicate how Jehovah will intervene during the time of distress to offer his people a way out of the tribulation. The rebellious ones though will have none of it and will seek to go it alone, with of course disastrous consequences for themselves. / You Know

lookingnow22

You Know,

I don't mean to be a pest, but what do you base that statement, "Every chapter in Isaiah has some future fulfillment", on?

That's a very interesting viewpoint.

Thanks for the reply,

Looking

lookingnow22

You Know,

Would you respond please? I am just looking for some clarification as to the reasoning of your last comment here.

Thanks in advance,

Looking

betweenworlds

Why would the almighty God of the universe, who gave us the abilty to converse clearly with one another, in a forthright, straight manner <This ability which even animals and insects have> Resort to using convoluted opended prophesies that are open to innumerable interpretations. We would never use this method to communicate with OUR children (And we are supposedly made in Gods image) When we want our children to do something, or feel that they are in danger, we TELL THEM in a not so hard to figure out way! If you believe the bible, there are many instances where God spoke directly, either himself or through angels to mankind. Why would he not use this method if our lives were depending on the outcome??? To use an analogy, imagine a father at one end of very dangerous maze filled with land mines, while his son is at the other end. The father tells his son.... son, you can get to the other side safely if you can correctly interpret these dreams I had the other night (While all the while the father has the exact directions on how to get his son to the other side safely and could give them to his son right away)Why would he do this? Where is the logic? I don't get it......
And I don't buy the argument that only the *worthy* who can figure it all out 'cause they are divinely blessed are going to survive.
The God I believe in is a hell of a lot kinder and makes more sense! And I'm proud to say that I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS!!!!!!!

Just my 2

BW

Sick of "prophecies"

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