No this is people claiming Harrison Ford played an Archeologist in Starwars, and other people saying they are wrong.
A Memorial "Correction"...
by AGuest 27 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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shotgun
Aguest...peace to you and lots of money as well.
Did I understand that you went to the Memorial talk?
I can't imagine you with your firm faith and convictions which are so contrary to WT teachings going to that unless it was for family.
In any case, take care.
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Corvin
Wrong, for how can you call something true which is taken from fiction? It's just another interpretation - like it or not.
This is why I hate these threads . . . (haven't had much sleep, so this might be a bit smart-ass. No biggy)
Ok, first of all, the Old Testiment, written in mainly Hebrew is comprised of specific words with specific definitions or meanings (just like English) that can be accurately translated into another language. If the meaning of a particular translated word is ambiguous you have to go back and find out what the original word in that language was and find out what that original word meant or at least its most commonly used definition. The original Hebrew word used in the Bible which we have translated to "soul" for example is, in Hebrew, "nephish" which has only one meaning in Hebrew and cannot be misinterpreted because it does have a specific meaning: "a breather". What has to be interpreted here? Nothing. When the Bible refers to man and animal as "souls", (nephish), it is litterally calling all of us "breathers" Just as if I called someone "idiot", it would be very hard to misinterpret what was originally inferred, no?
Bible translators render the Hebrew word "nephish" as "soul" in english, which because of its ambiguity has lead churches to erroneously teach that the soul lives on after we die. Once you know that "soul" orginally rendered "nephish" litterally means "a breather" then it does not make much sense to conclude or "interpret" the Bible to mean that when the "breather" dies, the "breather" keeps living. That would be an obvious contradiction, no?
I take it that you think the Bible is a work of fiction? Run along then and go bother the athiests, because this discussion is for those who believe the Bible is true and the inspired word of God. My bad patch with a little cult called the JW's hasn't left me bitter and thinking the Bible and God is all bullshizer. (((((HUGS))))))
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English Patient
I take it that you think the Bible is a work of fiction?
Correct. It's just theology, man. If you are so keen to track back and examine history for ancient language and what certain wording means, why not open your mind to evaluate everything, and not just language? Wouldn't that make equal sense?
I do admire and appreciate your faith, and I have no problems with it. But I cringe sometimes to read comments that are as presumpteous as your 'like it or not' comment, seeing as though it's all based on theology in the first place.
Im not Athiest but fail to see the advantages of proclaiming your own version of truth over another.
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Corvin
But I cringe sometimes to read comments that are as presumpteous as your 'like it or not' comment, seeing as though it's all based on theology in the first place.
EP, the statement was made in the context of the word the Bible writer used for what we refer to as "soul". It has little to do with interpretation no matter if the Bible is fiction or fact. The idea here is that a person can know with a strong measure of certainty what the dude writing the Bible meant when he wrote what he wrote. Know wut a mean?
The Hawaiians, for example, use the same words for different things, and you can only get the true meaning of what they are communicating through the context the word is used in, and in conjunction with the speaker's facial expressions, especially the use of the eyebrows, and tonality. You woulod really have to understand Hawaiian to understand the written language. "Aloha" is the most elementary example.
We will just agree to disagree and I am blissful none the less.
Aloha
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English Patient
We will just agree to disagree and I am blissful none the less
I'll drink to that. Cheers!
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XQsThaiPoes
Hey I wonder are there any threads that do Jehovah's Witneses vs Christianity vs history. In which you compare what they teach to what scholars think. You can use what JWs believe from official web site. I have hunch that the watchtower is correct, but it just may be that there is no such thing as "true" religion, or inspired word of God. Because for the life of me I can't understand how people can believe in a spirit when the people that supposed talked to God, and they are modeling their lives after didn?t. I also don't understand how the bible (mostly the OT) is writen so badly. It has major flaws that seems like a "caring" God would correct. Otherwise it implies God is fallible, or that he people that wrote the bible him made most of it up.
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logical
boa - who needs no religious complexity right now - sigh
I know exactly what you mean... the simple truth has been corrupted by many throughout history.... nobody can really know what is right now except by going to the source. All this bible stuff and religions teaching whatever bullshit for whatever agenda.... screw all that.
The way I see it is I will find out what is right either from God himself or when I am dead and burning in hell or whatever. I dont care any more. God / Christ or whoever is not telling me or I cannot hear and am blinded for whatever reason... it sucks. In the meantime I Will try to be good and not to hurt people. That is all I can do. But one thing is for certain, F*** religion.
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Utopian Reformist
I can't believe after all this time has passed, and after all of the marvelous and insightful discussions that have taken place at this site, that someone like AGUEST is still rambling on about Jesus and still using those ridiculous anglicized hebrew names (MISCAJAH, whatever..) and carrying on like it is all true and relevant. Wake up!
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XQsThaiPoes
Logical: I agree that?s why I am still a JW in good standing. After much research I realized that if JWs are wrong; so what take a number pull up a chair, and wait to be called. Religion is stupid anyway I only like JWs because I like the story they tell better than others. Have I lost my faith no. Do I care if what I believe is wrong nope, for I have no way of proving any other religion right. If you want to know what God is like read the story of Noah or Lot. Be you a Drunk or a Pervert God just comes in, and forces salvation upon you.