A Memorial "Correction"... (page 3)

itsallgoodnow

Hmm. XQtypos - that's really great for you. If they are no more right than anyone else why can't they just admit they are just one version of a story that may or may not be correct? They speak so authoritatively about the "truth" they have. Well, whatever they say, you can expect people to wise up and leave. Either armageddon is gonna happen or it's not. Either millions now living will never die or not. The truth will come out eventually and this will be another stupid end time religion that eventually died out of existence.

It is no picnic, being a Witness. Why bother with the most boring, restrictive, stubborn, assinine religion you can find?

Amazing1914

Corvin,

Ok, first of all, the Old Testiment, written in mainly Hebrew is comprised of specific words with specific definitions or meanings (just like English) that can be accurately translated into another language. If the meaning of a particular translated word is ambiguous you have to go back and find out what the original word in that language was and find out what that original word meant or at least its most commonly used definition. The original Hebrew word used in the Bible which we have translated to "soul" for example is, in Hebrew, "nephish" which has only one meaning in Hebrew and cannot be misinterpreted because it does have a specific meaning: "a breather".

My orthodox Jewish family would disagree with you ... they speak both Hebrew and Yiddish ... are well versed in the Hebrew Bible, Torah, and Talmud ... also, judging from attending their meetings ... I would have to say that if anything almost everything in Jewish religious culture is up for debate ... hence the existence fior the Talmud and a host of other theological writings.

Your statement reminds me of what the Watchtower teaches regarding Hebrew or other languages where the Society wants to nail down some teaching in a precise manner, and will use the rhetoric that Hebrew, or Greek, or latin is oh so precise ... but those who speak such languages, are familiar with the ancient culture and tradition often refure such claims. - Amazing

LittleToe

Shel:
Interesting.
Have you found anything they've got even nearly right? I haven't!

Corvin:
How do you interpret what Paul was saying in 1Thess.5:23, then?

XQs:You're nothing, if not consistent...

Edited to add:
PS btw that can be roughly translated that I think you're a prat.
PPS Hate the avatar, too.

AGuest

and thank you kindly to those who did not ridicule. May you find it within you to condescend to look up the scriptures and verses below... as a "second witness" to the truth I have shared with you on this matter, if you inclined to.

1. My Lord, although put to death in the flesh... retained his spirit. That is how he went to Hades... and preached to the SPIRITS there there.

1 Peter 3:18, 19

2. For although the flesh... the "soul" does indeed die... the spirit... does NOT die... but must be destroyed..

Matthew 10:28; Revelation 20:12-15

3. Which is why my Lord, when speaking of certain ones said that they were NOT dead... but sleeping. For he knew that although "breath" had left their BODIES... their "clay vessels"... which "vessels" indeed died, such breath itself did not die... but was either imprisoned in the world of the dead (where the dead sleep)... or returned to God... from whence it came... to sleep "under the altar".

John 11:11; Matthew 9:24; Acts 8:11; 1 Thessalonians 4:13; Revelation 6:9-11

Psalm 16:10; Psalm 49:15; Psalm 55:15

BUT... for those who are still skeptical with this truth... but yet believe t.here IS a God and Christ... may hear what my Lord said... and get the SENSE of it... when speaking of Abraham... who some would have you believe is dead... and Isaac... and Jacob... and many, many others... whose God He, the Most Holy One of Israel IS... whose name is JAH... of Armies...

"He is a God NOT of the dead... but of the LIVING."

If, then, these are indeed dead... in body AND spirit... then God, is a God... of the dead. Which is a lie, just the statement that He took His Son "out of existence"... is a lie.

There are those of us who are solely of the flesh, who walk by sight rather than by faith... who see only what is beheld by the eyes of flesh... who hear only what is apparent to the ears of flesh... so that they CANNOT put faith in what they cannot SEE or HEAR... because all things must be proved to them in an EMPIRICAL way.

For those who walk by faith, however, the limitations of the flesh do not bind. As sons of FREEDOM, then, TRUE freedom as has been given by the Truth the "sets you free" so that you are TRULY free... unbound by the physical world... what is BEYOND the flesh CAN be seen, heard, felt, tasted and smelled. Without a doubt.

In order for my Lord to have been "out of existence"... he would have had to be GONE, completely... not even in Sheol/Hades. For Sheol/Hades exists... as do those who sleep there. as does the heaven(s)... and those who exist there. That he was simply gone from THIS world... does not mean he did not exist.

I bid you peace.

A slave of Christ,

SJ

ellderwho

cheeses 69 & 181,

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Ellder. Who now is enlightened enough to understand that you are surely part of a trinity along with King pin, king fish Or possibly the fisher king.

plmkrzy

During the "talk", the "brother" read from the outline a statement that said, in effect, that for some time the Christ was "out of existence," that in dying, God TOOK him out of existence... and let him BE out of existence... for a time.

I missed the memorial at the KH this year and last year as well.

Last year I felt guilty

This year I don't

plum

Holey_Cheeses*King_of_the juice.

ellderwho,

Good to see your less serious side, and that you can take a bit of a stir.

cheeses. Gives the man applause.

ellderwho

Juicer,

Ellder--- who is "stirred" but not "shaken"

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A Memorial "Correction"...

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