To the Defenders of George Bush and the War in Iraq

by Greenpalmtreestillmine 208 Replies latest social current

  • blacksheep
    blacksheep

    Oh, for Chirst's sake, Realist. This is getting tiresome. I find it quite ofensive that you have the gall to pick and sort to find some assinine BOOK that supposedly supports your Taliban-loved-women theory. Got news for you: there was a hue and cry from feminist groups about the treatment of Arab women BEFORE the Afghan war.

    You obviously are going to believe what you want to believe.

    http://www.echonyc.com/~onissues/su98goodwin.html

    February 27, 1998 --Thirty-thousand men and boys poured into the dilapidated Olympic sports stadium in

    http://www.feminist.org/afghan/facts.html

    The Taliban & Afghan Women: Background

    On September 27, 1996, the Taliban, an extremist militia, seized control of the capital of , , and violently plunged the occupied territories of into a brutal state of gender apartheid in which women and girls have been stripped of their basic human rights.

    "If this was happening to any other class of people around the world, there would be a tremendous outcry. We must make sure these same standards are applied when it is women and girls who are brutally treated."
    -Eleanor Smeal, President, Feminist Majority Foundation

    Gender Apartheid | Taliban in Opposition to Islam | Who Is the Taliban | US Corporate Interests | Humanitarian Crisis | FMF's Campaign

    Gender Apartheid - The Elimination of Women's Rights

    Upon seizing power, the Taliban instituted a system of gender apartheid effectively thrusting the women of into a state of virtual house arrest. Under Taliban rule women have been stripped of their visibility, voice, and mobility. When they took control in 1996, the Taliban initially imposed strict edicts that:

    • Banished women from the work force
    • Closed schools to girls in cities and expelled women from universities
    • Prohibited women from leaving their homes unless accompanied by a close male relative
    • Ordered the publicly visible windows of women's houses painted black and forced women to wear the burqa (or chadari) - which completely shrouds the body, leaving only a small mesh-covered opening through which to see
    • Prohibited women and girls from being examined by male physicians while at the same time, prohibited most female doctors and nurses from working. (Currently there are a few, selected female doctors allowed to operate in segregated wards.)
  • blacksheep
    blacksheep

    http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson052303.asp

    May 23, 2003 8:45 a.m.
    Middle East Tragedies
    Pressing ahead is our only choice.

    The images are jarring, the hypocrisies appalling, the rhetoric repulsive. Only in the Arab Middle East ? and the Islamic world in general ? are suicide-murderers operating and indeed canonized, even blessed with cash bonuses. An inveterate liar like Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf is lauded for his defense of a mass killer like Saddam Hussein ? and at last lampooned not on moral grounds, but because his yarns about thousands of dead Marines are finally exposed by the sound of American tanks rumbling his way. The last gassings in the modern world ? Nasser's in Yemen and Saddam's in Kurdistan and Iran ? were all Mideastern; so are promises of virgins in exchange for bombing women and children.

    Pick up any newspaper and the day's bombings, killings, and terror are most likely to have occurred somewhere in the Islamic world. The big, silly lie ? Jews caused 9/11, the

  • Realist
    Realist

    black,

    CAN YOU READ?

    i never said the taliban were friendly people or nice to woman! but they DID NOT commit the crimes plmrkyz claimed!

  • Realist
    Realist

    black,

    especially for you:

    nytimes (i know not your favorite newspaper but certainly not an anti jewish one!)

    Sharon Pledges to Keep Largest Settlement Blocs

    By REUTERS alt
    Published: April 12, 2004 Filed at 4:52 p.m. ET

    MAALE ADUMIM, West Bank (Reuters) - Israel will keep its largest West Bank settlements, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said Monday before a trip to Washington to secure U.S. approval for his plans for a unilateral Gaza pullout.

    so is bush gonna allow this? is this his idea of fairness? is this gonna improve the view that the arabs have about the US? it is the hypocrisy and lies that enrages the people more than anything.

  • blacksheep
    blacksheep

    i never said the taliban were friendly people or nice to woman! but they DID NOT commit the crimes plmrkyz claimed!

    Guess I was mislead by the single reference you made on the true condition of women under Taliban rule: they apparently are much better off than they were before.

    So, if you feel that disallowing women an education, beating/raping them for appearing in public without anyone but their husbands, forcing them to cover their entire body with heavy covering and beating them for inadvertently revealing any part of their body, disallowing them from working, including women who were formerly highly educated/trained...to be a "better existance" then so be it. I think your absolutely insensitive to the plight of women, esp in Arab countries..

    I'm startring to find your attempts to resorting to meaningly technicalities (as in, "they don't throw acid on women in ARAB countries, only India does that..." to be highly amusing. When you reveal that you do not know the facts about a situation, you try to save face with some "technical" point. LOL.

  • Realist
    Realist

    black,

    are you going insane? what does this have to do with technicalities???

    pmlkzyr listed a number of attrocities and attributed them to arabs and/or afghans. however these attrocities were not committed by those people.

    now you come along and say that i deny the mistreatment of woman in afghanistan? WHAT THE HELL???

    i never denied that woman are mistreated!!! neither did the article i referred to!!! the article merely states that it was even worse before the taliban.

  • RevMalk
  • avishai
    avishai
    MAALE ADUMIM, West Bank (Reuters) - Israel will keep its largest West Bank settlements, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said Monday before a trip to Washington to secure U.S. approval for his plans for a unilateral Gaza pullout.

    so is bush gonna allow this? is this his idea of fairness? is this gonna improve the view that the arabs have about the US? it is the hypocrisy and lies that enrages the people more than anything.

    No, it's a strategic decision to keep the Israeli's from getting their asses shot off like Egypt and Jordan tried to do in 1967

  • shamus
  • Realist
    Realist

    avishai,

    what???

    strategic decision to keep the Israeli's from getting their asses shot off like Egypt and Jordan tried to do in 1967

    israel attacked the arabs in 1967 NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!

    besides ...is the palestinian army about to attack israel? i must have missed that.

    the arabs are barefooted iditos...all of them together have no chance against the high tech army of israel! (as was proven over and over again!).

    its amazing that when others try to pull shit like this its a reason for a war ...if israel does it its called self defense! NICE double standard that will certainly appease the arabs!

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