Bullied into quitting my job?

by Nosferatu 45 Replies latest jw friends

  • xjw_b12
    xjw_b12

    On the other hand perhaps a politely worded letter, hard copy of course could help alleviate the stress. A suggestion would be:

    Dear (whoever),
    . . .Someone wants you to know that your breaths smells like death. Your breath really smells horrible and you would do a service to the world if you brushed your teeth more than the recommended two times a day. . . The odor of your breath gives the impression that you not only neglect brushing, but that you spend time eating terribly abnormal things like animal feces. . .

    or....

    Dear (whoever),
    . . .Your body odor is so foul that I would rather smell babies diapers for a living than stand next to you for more than 10 seconds. . . I do know where you are from, but in Canada we shower regularly and use soap-- please change your ways. . .

    or...

    Dear (whoever),
    . . .Working with you is similar to listening to the same song for 48 hours straight. . .If I had not learned to avoid you as much as possible, your personality would have forced me to quit by now. . . It would be more humane to have a co-worker eternally listen to the sound of fingernails scratching against a chalkboard, than to have them work with you. . .

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    Peace to you!

    While I am not certified in Human Resources, I currently supervise 39 employees and therefore must have some knowledge in the area. So, let's deal with this:

    First, if what you state here is accurate, then your boss is out of line: he is violating your official job description - assembler. Many employers don't realize that "other duties as assigned," MUST correlate with your primary duties. For example, if you are a "paper-pusher"... such "other duties" cannot include, say, having you climb the roof and do shingle repairs. Or move furniture. Or clean the pool. These require a much higher level of safety knowledge: climbing/using ladders, heavy lifting, proper handline/storage of chemicals. Thus, it must be "LIKE" work. So it could, say, include assembling other types of components, etc., but not, say, car engines. I would, then, ask the boss of a copy of the job description under which you were hired. If he says they don't/didn't have one, then I would ask how you were classified to the company's Workers' Compensation and Liability Insurance carriers.

    Second, his memo states that your job description "has now been changed to include." By law, he cannot do this (1) to include an unlike task, and (2) without your agreement. At a minimum, his Workers' Comp insurance will require him to separate the two classifications, as he is requiring you to fulfill two totally different job "types".Thus, based on your version of what has taken place, your job "description" didn't change: your JOB changed... to now include a totally unrelated TYPE of job.

    May I ask: did you agree to such change? Meaning, were you given a NEW description, which was reviewed and discussed with your boss... or HR representative? Did you sign your acknowlegement and agreement? Because it appears that in HIS mind, you apparently are not only an "assmbler"... but also a "groundskeeper." One is "technical"; the other is "maintenance" and they are two very different TYPES of work. Unless your initial job description showed you as having both, he cannot now make you responsible for the latter... unless you AGREED to accept the new responsibility.

    If, however, you AGREED to the new tasks... then you now have two different job classifications... and he can require you to fulfill both, as you agreed to. However, the paperwork should be separate... and perhaps the pay should be different.

    If you did NOT agree... then you have every right to call your boss on it... and not expect retaliation. Although you may be an "at-will" employee (these days, most employees are), should your boss try to "fire" you because you called his attention to his unfair employment practice, then you may have legal recourse. Under the "Whistleblower Act" it is unlawful for an employer to use termination or pressure to retaliate against an employee that has brought to such employer's (or the government's) attention actions/conduct which are unlawful or illegal. Thus, once you've made a formal complaint to your employer regarding an unfair or discriminatory act (which I would advise you to do in writing, and I can help you, if you wish) such employer is barred, by law, from retaliating against you as a result.

    Now, this does not mean you can't be terminated. As an "at-will" employee (if that is your status), both parties (employer or employee) can end the relationship at any time for any reason... except retaliation. So, if he IS out to get you... he will most likely start attacking your job performance, attendance, "attitude", etc. You should, therefore, make sure that your performance is IMPECCABLE in these areas, with relation to your position as "assembler."

    The good thing is that if he does terminate you... or create a hostile environment.... AFTER receiving formal complaint from you, it will appear that he is indeed retaliating, and may be legally estopped, and he may be personally (and corporately) liable.

    So... you need to make sure of the facts:

    1. What was your original job description?

    2. Where you properly and formally notified of a change (an informal "Oh, BTW..." email doesn't constitute "proper" notice)?

    3. Did you agree to continue your asembly employment as well as take on servicing the grounds?

    If you think your boss is out to get you because of your failure to invite him, etc., then I would speak to him and let him know your concerns. Call him on his conduct. More than likely, he has NO clue that he is breaking the law... on many fronts. (You would be AMAZED at how many supervisors have no knowledge of some of the basics of employment law, especially in light of the changes in the last 5 years or so!).

    If you want to try and resolve this more amicably, and keep your job, you could:

    1. Ask to meet with your boss and when you do, let him know, first, how much you appreciate your job and working for the company. Then, ask him if there is a problem... because "at times [you] feel that [his] conduct towards [you] makes [you] FEEL as if [he] might have a "personal problem" with [you] and [you] would like to get to the bottom of it and resolve it." Tell him that you are SURE he does not mean to single you out, but that to YOU... it FEELS like that may be the case. Then let him talk.

    If he agrees with you, tell him (in the nicest terms, of course!) that it must stop immediately, and that if it doesn't, you will feel you have no choice but to take it up a level (if he is not the top man). If he IS the top man, let him know your desire: to stay and have a good working relationship, which includes some respect from him... and that in order for you to stay, you cannot tolerate anything less. Tell him that failing a change, you will have no choice but to move on, but would only choose that if staying became unbearable.

    If he disagrees with you and says there is "nothing" going on, then give him the benefit of the doubt and give it some time to see if things change. Most probably, they will: you will have "checked" him, so he's gonna be EXTRA careful around you.

    I hope this information helps. There is not very much you can do in a legal way at this time; you would have to be terminated... or forced to quit... before you can seek legal action (wrongful termination) under the Whistleblower Act. Most attorneys would advise you that if things are too "hot"... just find another job. Not everyone can do that, though, so maybe you can try this first and get things calmed down.

    Again, peace to you.

    A slave of Christ,

    SJ

  • kaykay_mp
    kaykay_mp

    dude, tell him he'd better pay you for picking up trash, they don't make us do that @ my job. that's what they hired janitors custodians for.

    which reminds me of something else. also at my job im required to answer (and make) all types of phone calls (i work for a satellite company). for the last couple of weeks, i had to do outbound sales for about 5 hrs a day. im the top seller in my team. i asked my supervisor, "shouldn't we be getting commission for busting our a$$es all week?"

    "i'll look into it, kay."

    well we didn't get commission, but they would give a nice little cash incentive for the top 3 when the campaign was over.

    damn, im evil.

  • Scully
    Scully

    Nos:

    Buy a box of latex gloves before you go picking up all that garbage. You don't know whose trash you're picking up. And give your boss the receipt and tell him you want to be reimbursed for them. You're entitled to this minimum standard of personal safety. If you're near a busy/noisy roadway, you're entitled to hearing protection too. And proper coveralls and workboots to protect your clothing.

    Love, Scully

  • True North
    True North
    I was hired to assemble, repair, and test electronics.
    "You will then deposit the garbage bag in dumpster."
    Wendy's....I'm fully trained there, and they're always hiring people.

    Dude, you need to work on developing some marketable job skills and credentials! You're getting married? Make sure you get this taken care of before you have kids.

    When I became a JW and got married, I dropped out of the University I was attending and became a janitor. I must have been the world's worst janitor -- I was so unsuited for it. Finally I wised up and got a student loan and went to a tech school for a year. (Going to school all day; doing janitorial all night; meetings and field service on top of that; man that sucked.) Thankfully I got my certificate and got a job before the kids started arriving, otherwise I would have been totally screwed.

    If nothing else, how are you at dealing with people? You seem to do a good job at communicating and putting over your viewpoints on this forum -- can you do that in person? If you've got the people skills and resilience for it, commissioned sales can be very rewarding. That's one profession where employers often don't care so much about credentials; they just want results and pay accordingly. It's the kind of job where you can even end up making far more than your "boss". You have to be right for that kind of work, though. (I'm not but I've known people who are and they've done very well for themselves.)

  • Nosferatu
    Nosferatu

    You're all giving some very interesting opinions and advice here.

    So... you need to make sure of the facts:

    1. What was your original job description?

    2. Where you properly and formally notified of a change (an informal "Oh, BTW..." email doesn't constitute "proper" notice)?

    3. Did you agree to continue your asembly employment as well as take on servicing the grounds?

    It's very interesting how all this got started. At first, it was an occasional favor. Slowly, I was asked more often to do it. Now, it's become part of my job. I don't know if that is agreeing to take on another responsibility.

    They originally hired me to put parts on circuit boards. I remember one specific time where I had finished all my work, and the shipper/reciever needed help. I offered up my help, and he appreciated it. One of the higher ups came by and gave the shipper/reciever shit for letting me help him. Her exact words were "We hired him to put parts on circuit boards!" When they moved me over to testing & repairs, I had an official meeting informing me of this promotion. As for garbage pickup and snow removal, it has all been done by email.

    And proper coveralls and workboots to protect your clothing.

    This is very interesting, Scully. There was a guy who worked here 3 years ago. His job was to go out doing service calls at site. He ended up tearing a pair of his jeans. He returned and asked to be compinsated for the jeans. I'm not sure if he quit, or they canned him, but the nice email said that they couldn't reach an agreement on certain terms pertaining to his employment.

  • Nosferatu
    Nosferatu
    Dude, you need to work on developing some marketable job skills and credentials! You're getting married? Make sure you get this taken care of before you have kids.

    Wendy's was only a part-time job I took on when I needed the money. I've gone to college, and I have a certificate to prove that I'm qualified for this job. I thought I was set here, but that seems to be changing.

    As far as sales goes, I believe I'm not cut out for that job. When I was in the "truth", I never spoke at the doors, I never placed anything, and I never had a return visit. The thought of being a salesman turns me off. I don't have a good gift for gab. I'm much better working with my hands than my mouth (that sounded bad).

  • AGuest
    AGuest
    'We hired him to put parts on circuit boards!'"

    I wonder: is "she" still there? If so, maybe "she"... and "he"... need to have a little talk. Even still, her comment pretty much suggests *what* you were *hired* for.

    A tip: Be careful who you do *favors* for... and make sure everyone is under the same impression: that they're *favors*. Start by reminding your boss.

    Peace!

    A slave of Christ,

    SJ

  • johnny cip
    johnny cip

    HI NOS; 1) There has been a noticeable drop in employees in the past couple of years. Work has slowed down quite a bit. Bonuses have been decreasing in the past couple of years. KEEP IN mind when things slow down and money is a little tight, the boss is looking for was to save the business, or employees. i owned a restaurant for 10 years . and when thing started going down, everyone needed to do other jobs they never did before . i didn't do it to hurt ppl i just needed each one to be more diverse. so don't worry about that to much. but now to your future,, if you think you can make a go of this business your self. start slow fixing some jobs at home till you get enough to step out on your own . side jobs are the key to opening your own business. good luck ,,,john

  • Sunnygal41
    Sunnygal41

    Wow, Nos..........I thought at first this was a joke...........in what way can this be part of your job? I don't get this at all.............having just been terminated myself tho, and I got unemployment. Is that a possibility for you? It would be worth it to have him terminate you wrongfully then you can collect and look for another job.

    Terri

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