Will man evolve a beyound any need for religion???

by frankiespeakin 25 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • XQsThaiPoes
    XQsThaiPoes

    No man will never evolve beyond religion. There is no such thing as religion anyway. Basically in the future sure maybe people won't believe in a god or have a sense of spirituality, but the part of the brain that make religiousness will have to be removed. Because what people call religion is just an alternate social structure.

    It is part of the brain that makes it feel holy. This holy feeling is a good thing because people are taught when to turn associate it with a thing, ritual, or place. Maybe I am talking about something different maybe you mean bowing down to an idol and not getting high off an idea. I feel you will have to rebuild the brain to stop people from getting high off symbolism.

  • Realist
    Realist
    God, I hope not.

    hell i hope yes! instead of following primitive writings lets follow modern ethics and get rid of this superstitious nonsense. by the way...there is no evolution going on in the human population. for this you would need a selective power and a small isulated population. howver we might take evolution in our own hands. together with other technologies this might lead to an improved version of us.

  • XQsThaiPoes
    XQsThaiPoes

    Evolution is aways going on. half of all human are resistant to prion diseaseses. Many resistant to HIV. I think you don't realize the earth is isolated and 6 billion is a small number.

  • Realist
    Realist

    XQs,

    these things do not effect the mental capacity of the population.

    half of all human are resistant to prion diseaseses

    i have not heard that! where did you read this?

  • XQsThaiPoes
    XQsThaiPoes

    It is a MV genetic marker that keeps protein from mutating in "mad human disease". I don't have the article that averaged out to half the population.

    Cannibalism's DNA Trail: Gene may signal ancient prion-disease outbreaks

    Bruce Bower

    Cannibalism among prehistoric humans may have left lasting genetic marks, a team of scientists contends. Their controversial argument hinges on a link between specific DNA mutations and a disease that afflicted South Pacific villagers who practiced cannibalism as late as 1950.

    Gene variations that protect against prion diseases?deadly neurological illnesses caused by proteins known as prions (SN: 10/11/97, p. 229)?frequently occur in modern human populations, say John Collinge of University College London and his colleagues. These variations occur in the gene that encodes a protein that's usually harmless but causes prion disease when it's in a mutant form. The protective variations originated around 500,000 years ago and spread via natural selection because they protect against epidemics of prion diseases, Collinge's team contends in an upcoming issue of Science.

    Prion diseases include Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease in people and mad cow disease. These maladies unfold when prions, presumably from meat consumption, induce their harmless versions to assume the prions' warped shapes and then to clump together. This process leads to brain degeneration and death.

    The potential link of protective genes to cannibalism stems from studies of a prion ailment known as kuru, which Fore villagers in Papua New Guinea contracted from 1920 to 1950 as a result of eating human brains and other tissue during funeral rituals. Enough prehistoric cannibalism occurred to have instigated kurulike epidemics in ancient human populations (SN: 9/9/00, p. 164: http://www.sciencenews.org/20000909/fob1.asp), Collinge asserts. "Selection for [the protective genes] has been widespread and began very early in the evolution of modern humans," Collinge says.

    A previous study led by Collinge determined that people with one regular copy and one mutated copy of what he calls "the prion-protein gene" were protected against Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease. The scientists did not find anyone with two mutated copies; those with two regular copies were not protected. The mutation consists of a single amino acid substitution at a specific location. Other researchers studying Japanese populations found that a different mutation on the same gene had a comparably protective effect.

    Collinge's team studied DNA sections containing the critical gene obtained from more than 2,000 people worldwide. All the groups examined contained a substantial proportion of people with a single copy of one of the two protective mutations. People in Japan and Taiwan exhibited the lowest population rate of the variations, 6 to 8 percent. Fore villagers had the highest rate?55 percent.

    These genetic patterns indicate that "balancing selection" took place, Collinge proposes. In this rare phenomenon, also seen with malaria, individuals with different versions of the same gene receive more protection against infectious diseases than those with two copies of the common version do.

    A prion disease acquired in prehistoric populations through cannibalism represents the most likely explanation of the high prevalence of people with one mutated and one regular prion protein gene, in Collinge's view.

    Although the new data are suggestive of early cannibalism and kurulike diseases, they're also consistent with the presence of prion diseases that result from eating meat of nonhuman animals, comments anthropologist Henry Harpending of the University of Utah in Salt Lake City.

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    References and Sources for this Article

    References:

    Mead, S. . . . and J. Collinge. In press. Balancing selection at the prion protein gene consistent with prehistoric kurulike epidemics. Science. Abstract available at http://dx.doi.org/10.1126/science.1083320.

    Further Readings:

    Bower, B. 2000. Ancient site holds cannibalism clues. Science News 158(Sept. 9):164. Available at http://www.sciencenews.org/20000909/fob1.asp.

    Seppa, N. 1997. Prion proponent wins Nobel for medicine. Science News 152(Oct. 11):229.

    ______. 1997. Mad cow disease, human illness tied. Science News 152(Oct. 4):212. Available at http://www.sciencenews.org/sn_arc97/10_4_97/fob1.htm.

    Sources:

    John Collinge
    Medical Research Council
    Prion Unit
    Department of Neurodegenerative Disease
    Institute of Neurology
    University College
    Queen Square
    London WC1N 3BG
    United Kingdom

    Henry Harpending
    Department of Anthropology
    University of Utah
    Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0060

    From Science News, Volume 163, No. 15, April 12, 2003, p. 229.

  • Realist
    Realist

    thanks for the article!!!

    i will read it more carefully tomorrow.

  • kls
    kls

    If it ever did there would be something else that people would need to look up to or tell them how to live ,think,act. It would be just just like exchanging one addiction for another. In someways with evolution people got weaker and need control.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    kls,

    You may be right,,they say that evolution is not a perfectly straight path up. We may go sideways and make a lot of zig-zags but It seems our race has gained more intelligence and is headed toward greater intelligence but we may soon find our species transformed to pond scum and another species to higher inteligence there is no way to know for sure no absolutes.

  • XQsThaiPoes
    XQsThaiPoes

    WHat has stuck me as funny is dumb people have more children than smart people. So human may devolve because socialy only agraian culture benefit from large families. Large families are economicaly counterpproductive but genetically productive. I wonder will that haunt us in a few thousand years.

  • onintwo
    onintwo

    XQ's wrote...

    "Dumb people have more children than smart people" .....statistics, please.

    Onintwo

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