"The World As I See It"

by onacruse 48 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • onacruse
    onacruse

    Einstein:

    I do not at all believe in human freedom in the philosophical sense. Everybody acts not only under external compulsion but also in accordance with inner necessity. Schopenhauer's saying, "A man can do what he wants, but not want what he wants," has been a very real inspiration to me since my youth; it has been a continual consolation in the face of life's hardships, my own and others', and an unfailing well-spring of tolerance. This realization mercifully mitigates the easily paralyzing sense of responsibility and prevents us from taking ourselves and other people all too seriously; it is conducive to a view of life which, in particular, gives humor its due.

    To enquire after the meaning or object of one's own existence or that of other creatures has always seemed to me absurd from an objective point of view. And yet everybody has certain ideals which determine the direction of his endeavors and his judgments. In this sense I have never looked upon ease and happiness as ends in themselves--this ethical basis I call the ideal of a pigsty. The ideals which have lighted my way, and time after time have given me new courage to face life cheerfully, have been Kindness, Beauty, and Truth. Without the sense of kinship with men of like kind, without the occupation with the objective world, the eternally unattainable in the field of art and scientific endeavors, life would have seemed to me empty.

  • Navigator
    Navigator

    Very deep and insightful Onacruse. I feel much the same way. I know myself well enough to understand that I would not be where I am today if my life had been one of ease and satisfaction. There is a sense of "divine discontent" in all of us that impels us to develop and grow. Perhaps that is our real function here on this plane of existence. I know a great many people who are "stronger at the broken places" because of events in their lives.

  • ScoobySnax
    ScoobySnax

    Beautiful.

    In my mind 2 things I saw in this thread....

    1. Chaos Theory......Jurassic Park Jeff Goldblum.!!

    2. The beauty of unpredictability......who knows where it'll end up?

    Out of chaos comes a "settling" It constantly repeats itself in life. Turbulent at times, other times painful......but a "settling" always follows. A reason, and a purpose becomes evident.

    well thats what I think anyway.

  • DanTheMan
    DanTheMan
    A man can do what he wants, but not want what he wants

    I don't get it....could somebody please explain to me what Schopenhauer meant here?

  • Markfromcali
    Markfromcali

    I think the title of comedian Margaret Cho's video says it all: "I'm the one that I want."

    I remember getting this book, there was another JW youth at the bookstore who didn't have any comment when I showed him, and silly me thought of commenting at the meeting with some quotes - I didn't get called on.

  • onacruse
    onacruse

    Nav:

    There is a sense of "divine discontent" in all of us that impels us to develop and grow.

    Perhaps, as a rephrase, this might be termed the "struggle against our own sense of finity." That "divine discontent" is what, from a theistic point of view, what we were "created" with, and so from that we can only be what we are; "God" has no choice but to accept the consequences of his own creation. This is one of the 'philosophical' realisms that Einstein came, with some reluctance, to accept (as evidenced by his "cosmological constant"), and which Liebniz and Newton debated throughout their lives.

    Which leads into Scoob's remark:

    The beauty of unpredictability......who knows where it'll end up?

    Reminds of that old saying: "You pays your dime, and you takes your chances."

    Perhaps that's one of the most challenging things we face, as we exit a "predictable, determined" belief system: nothing is certain, and so we need fear no "certain" consequences for our decisions.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Dan,,

    I think that means we have no free will to want anything it is all prearranged.

  • Markfromcali
    Markfromcali
    Perhaps that's one of the most challenging things we face, as we exit a "predictable, determined" belief system: nothing is certain, and so we need fear no "certain" consequences for our decisions.

    Kind of makes life interesting huh?

  • ScoobySnax
    ScoobySnax
    nothing is certain, and so we need fear no "certain" consequences for our decisions

    ......hmmm. Craig, this however is the beggining of a slippery slope. Unpredictability is one thing, but refusing to take accountability for our own actions is very dangerous. Maybe I read your post wrong. But this worries me.

    Scott

  • onacruse
    onacruse

    DanTheMan: Hi there! Been a while since we chatted.

    A man can do what he wants, but not want what he wants
    I don't get it....could somebody please explain to me what Schopenhauer meant here?

    Perhaps this rephrase: We don't want what we want, but what others teach us to want. Very JW, and very challenging to ex-JWs to overcome.

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