by logansrun 26 Replies latest jw friends
"Oh God! Oh dear Jesus God, please let the fire in Hell not be a literal fire!"
In the case of the Minister, his concern for "lost souls" drove him on a quest to reveal the "love of God".
I fail to see where these are the same. How is the first a quest to reveal the love of God? Isn't it more of a begging God not to torture anyone with fire? I see it as a huge contradiction.
Princess,
Well, kinda sorta...Didn't you "kinda" feel you were showing love by preaching to the people Jehovah was going to impale with a hailstone at Armageddon? Let's just call the minister's sense of love neurotic.
B.
Great thread all:
I have to agree with Franklin J. I never had any such experience while I was involved with the Witnesses. I wanted one so badly though. I thought that would help me have the blind faith that everyone said I was lacking.
It never came.
~Snapdragon
Princess:
If I'm reading the story correctly, the quest came after the revelation...
Bradley:
Seems like you're in tune with what I meant, on this one
I suppose I misunderstood Ross.
Bradley: I guess I never felt it was love as much as duty to preach about armageddon. Looking back I now see I just was going through the motions for 27 years. Does that make me a bad person?
What I see as a huge contradiction is that a god of love would torture people in hell, or allow it to be done. I realize that is not what you were saying but it is what the minister preached in the story. He listened to a "voice" that he assumed was God. The man could have been stark raving mad.
I believe people hear the voices. I do not agree with their origins.
Princess:
I don't know if you misunderstood, or I did. But my comments were based on my interpretation of what Bradley presented, as I have since elaborated on.
As for your being a "bad person", who of us is able to make that kinda call?
Not I, for sure (besides, my theology has us judging ourselves... ...do you "feel" bad?)
As for your theology of "Hell", that sounds very humanistic, however that may or may not have any bearing on what may or may not actually be
(I'm trying to get a "confusing" vote, in that other thread - so far I only have one sympathy vote from Biscuits - Hehehe)
This isn't the thread for such a debate (and I know it's been done to death (escuse the pun) on other threads) but there's a great variety in concepts of "Hell". There are as many opinions on as many aspects of things (especially theology) as there are asshole. It seems that everyone has one (my own being the "outer darkness" model).
In the case of the guy in question, it seems reasonable to conclude that he believed in the fiery variety, which gave great impetus to his consequent "mission" to "help" people.
As I mentioned before, I'd be interested to know what his attitude to this would have been prior to these events, since he certainly appears to apply himself to it afterwards.
PS My opinions on "personal judgement" and "Hell" are based primarily on John 3:17-21.
...do you "feel" bad?
Nope, it wasn't a serious comment.
Never mind. Didn't mean to hi-jack the thread.
Carry on folks.
