Danish accuser admits it was all just lies!

by TheOldHippie 26 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

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  TheOldHippie

  The Danish newspaper which has told so many stories about youths being molested in Denmark by JWs recently, today brings the story that the woman who came forth with the most sensational ones of these stories, how she and others were molested by groups of elders during baptismal preparations etc. - to the police has admitted it was all nothing but lies.

  I just wonder if silentlambs and the Danish posters here will be as quick to bring these news and the translation out to the people just as quickly as they did when the original story was given by the newspaper?

  It is very boring to say "What did I tell you?", but just cannot help reminding that I told I no way could believe a story about groups of elders gang-raping prospective "sisters" during elder-meetings.

  Stories like these, and then the retraction because they were lies - are very, very damaging to the work done by the honest, hard-working people trying to help molested persons and bring about changes of policy by WTBTS.
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  zugzwang

  Pedaphile rule #1 NO WITNESSES TO THE CRIME!!!!!!!!!

  Groups of elders? Come on. Very rarely if ever. That rises to a new level of stupidity. Besides how many elders do you know who trust other elders? No elder is gonna do something that some other elder, who might get a conscience later, might report to the authorities.
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  Black Sheep

  Can we have the URL please?

  Some of us can read Dansk
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  talesin

  I respectfully disagree. Systemic abuse of children by groups exists, and it happens in the JW organization. These people operate in secret, and they are powerful. Don't kid yourself.

  Yes, this could be a valid 'retraction'. OTOH, the survivor(s) may have been threatened with dire consequences, even death. We will never know the truth about this particular case.

  And yes, publicity like this hurts 'the cause'. I agree.

  It's why many don't speak up. Why cloud the issues by telling the truth of one's experiences, when most people won't believe you? I will put myself out there and say that is how this survivor of this horrific type of abuse feels.

  Hillbilly, I get your point, and for the most part agree. I ask that you don't completely discount the possibility that the original accusations may have been true. There is more going on in the JW than you, personally, can know.

  It is my fervent hope that, someday, these abuses will be revealed to the world, believed, and STOPPED. Until that time, they will continue.

  Believe or not. I don't care. I know 'the truth'.

  Wishing you the best,

  talesin
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  TheOldHippie

  URL:http://www.ekstrabladet.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=252298
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  zugzwang

  Systemic abuse of children by groups exists, and it happens in the JW organization. These people operate in secret, and they are powerful. Don't kid yourself.- Talesin

  I sincerely want to believe that there is no way that that can be true. Don't get me wrong, I have no doubt that there are pedaphiles in the borg. I just find it difficult to believe that there is the type of group activity. I mean the depths of deprevity of human beings obviously can be very low. (Burning one's own children in sacrificial fire, for example) But in my innocent little mind I always figured that pedaphiles were persons who kept a secret all to themselves (and their victims, of course) and did not dare share such a perversion with anyone. I mean, how would one pedaphile know that another person was also a pedaphile in order to form any type of group perversion? And then to say it is three or more persons? The larger the group the more fragile the structure. (A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link.) So in order for a group of pedaphiles to be working in concert together would mean that all the members of this perverse group would have to be able to keep a secret. I suppose such is possible, but the majority of elders I knew couldn't keep a secret to save their lives. Their wives knew everything or at least 50% of what was going on. So would that mean that the wives of these elders also knew what was going on? It's not that I am trying to be confrontational, it's just I can't fathom the scope of what would have to be being implied. If it is true that the authorities discounted this story then I can certainly understand why they would have.

  zugz
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  zugzwang

  talesin,

  I read your post again, and I just wanted to add that I failed to notice that you said that this was your personal experience. I certainly apologize and in no way mean to belittle your experience. It shows a lot of strength on your part to speak out even if some don't believe you. But like you said, you just continue speaking about what you know is truth.

  zugz
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  Kenneson

  Can someone get a translation of that please?
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  Nordic

  To OldHippie

  I am tired of you mixing stories together.

  You are rigth that the newspaper today is bringing a article about that it was a lies, this is the first story the newspaper brougth in a serie on 13 article about the JW, it was about a young women Miriam Poulsen. And this is not the story about the women that rember that ther was severel elders to the rape of her and her sister, and her sister's daugther remmber the same thing when she was a young girl, so we got 3 witness to this group of elders with this "hobby".

  And to this story with Miriam Poulsen, she was i think threaten by a JW lawer to take it back her story. Sad that she did that.

  Nordic
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  talesin

  Nordic

  Thank you for the clarification. Important to have the stories straight!

  Zugz

  Apology accepted, and no offense taken. The fact that you find it hard to believe is a testament to your goodness. The statements in your initial comments are those of logic, and make sense. OTOH, think of a ring of child pornographers --- they seek out their own, and keep the secrets. Works the same way.

  Thanks so much for your kind words. It was very hard for me to write that, and I appreciate your support.

  t