I need HELP!!!!!!!!! (page 2)

Nosferatu

Im wondering......now that you have all left and startedover. What do you think is ahead for you? have you found new religions, become atheists, are you lost? What do you think lies after death now? It must be strange to have had your whole future layed out for you and then have to start from scratch.

I've chosen to give up on religion completely. In my opinion, if there ever was a god, there isn't one now. Either something happened to him, or he doesn't exist. I'll find out what happens after death when I die. Starting from scratch is great. I completely cleared my slate, and now I choose what I want in my life, and my future. I don't have to rely on someone else to make me happy. I make myself happy.

kls

Sam , some here are still very religious some are atheist , etc. That is one way to show a cult for what it is ,the fact that your live and the end of it is all planned out for you. When you leave the Cult you think for yourself plan your own life and destiny. It is hard to have to us your own mind after having it all been done for you much like a teenager becoming an adult and leaving home to be on there own. There is much to learn and it is scary.Give it time and let yourself grow and learn and experiance what it is to have your own thoughts and mind.

Death is what you make it out to be . You are still programed to be terrified of the end. You will die like everone else and it won't be at Armageddon. As you are here longer you will soon see that the WT lies and scares people to keep them under their control.

Billygoat

Im wondering......now that you have all left and startedover. What do you think is ahead for you? have you found new religions, become atheists, are you lost? What do you think lies after death now? It must be strange to have had your whole future layed out for you and then have to start from scratch.

What's ahead? A clean slate. It took a few years to overcome the guilt...I still struggle with it. But I realize it's just the old tapes that will play after an escape from a cult like this. It's not so strange to have my whole future ahead. It's actually freeing. Now instead, I have years to focus on enjoying life as God meant it to be enjoyed. Animals, nature, friendships, reading the bible. I have not given up on God. I go to a church and am actively involved in it. I don't agree with everything they teach, but I'm allowing myself the rest of my life to get my own opinion on those beliefs. What's the rush? I realized it was not The Truth? when the love they bragged about having, just never showed itself. I found more love and kindness with worldly people than behind the walls of a Kingdom Hall. God is gentle and loving. He would never treat his child the way those people treated their own. THAT'S what made me realize it wasn't The Truth?.

Hoofie

As far as I can tell Sam, you've come to the right place on here. There are people who can help you through their own experience. As you know, I only registered today but already the relief I'm feeling through getting feedback from people who are in/have been in a similar boat is overwhelming. Ultimately you have to decide what's right for you, but indoctrination is not the key - it only serves to lock your mind and that's not a good thing.

Keep searching, keep listening and hang on in there. I'm right with you!!

Hoofie

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jgnat

KLS and Billygoat, I am so impressed with the wisdom of your replies. Bravo!

Sam, I was never a JW, so I have not faced this sudden loss of belief. I have noticed though, that the XJW's who suffer the most are ones who don't take the time to do some self-examination and rebuilding of what is really important to them. I promise, though, that if you take the time to do this, you will be stronger of mind and much more able to cope with change. It is kind of like switching from a diet of steady gruel to meat and potatoes, finished off with a big slice of apple pie. True, you will take longer to chew things over, but how much more satisfying the meal!

kls

Great reply Hoofie.

Bubbamar

Hello Samdownounder

I used to think that the only way I'd ever know if the JW's were right or wrong was either (a) I would die or (b) Armageddon would come. But then I read Crisis of Conscience by Raymond Franz and BOY did I find out sooner than I thought I would!! I had been out 18 years when I read it and was was fairly certain -intuitively - that they were full of crap - but when I read CoC - it was almost overwhelming. It was like not only finding out that the world that I learned to be flat was really round - but also finding out that the people saying it was flat knew all along that it was round. What a betrayal!!

Before that, I would not have gone back anyway - but now I can not go back because I feel so strongly about what happened to the poor people in Malawi....beaten, raped and killed for not getting a party card---meanwhile in Mexico - the mexican brothers were allowed to bribe the officials for their cartilla. AND the clentcher is that also while the brothers in Malawi were being beaten, raped and killed for refusing to get a party card --- The WTBTS was a member of the UNITED NATIONS.

Let me tell you this for sure--- when I die and I have to face my Maker and look into the eyes of the dead of Malawi I would definitely not want to have to say that I was affiliated in any way with an organization of such deciept and hypocracy. I want to be able to say that I did something to help.

What we go through upon leaving the witnesses is not easy - its painful, scary and depressing. But the freedom is worth the struggle. I now have the freedom to discover Jesus/God/Buddah....whatever I choose. I also recommend Releasing the Bonds or any other book by Steven Hassan. He's a cult counselor and provides a lot of great information. It can be important to know that cults instill phobias - which is why you are feeling so scared and guilty now.

You can walk through your fear. Its all a big LIE.

(((((((My best to you. )))))))))))))))))

Hoofie

Wow what a reply! That's of great help to me too. Thank you!

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avishai

Sam, great name!!! It's my name too. Anyway, on to other things.

The "quotes" website is great. I'd also research the "Best of" section on this site, it's very informative. You asked

What do you think is ahead for you?

Well, that's the funny thing. The witnesses always bring this up, saying "Even if we are wrong, where will you go?

Well, I'm gonna go watch saturday morning cartoons. I'm gonna sit and do a lot of the things I could'nt do as a kid because I was spending approx 30 hrs. a week doing JW related things. I'm gonna go back to school. I'm going to practice spitting, swearing, and how to be a good friend without the caveat of "You better tow the party line, or I'm not gonna hang out with you", in other words, unconditional love..

Can someone post the "Signs your religion is a cult" list? I can't find it.

New Castles

Its true, I also experienced overwhelming feelings of guilt when I first starting reading and investigating...This is something that is not going to go away right now. It takes time to read and investigate and convince yourself this is not the truth. Give it time and things will fall into place. Just remember you do not have to serve an organization led by men to serve God.

Good luck to ya!

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