I exspect them next to put an elder in every group who is in charge of counting time for the group in field service . It will probly not work because of all the time spent in donut shops or diners .
Preliminary US service report for 2004 - based on KM figures (0% increase)
by truthseeker 28 Replies latest jw friends
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minimus
HEY-----HOW CLOSE ARE THESE FIGURES TO WHAT THE ''REAL NUMBERS" ARE????
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blondie
a) publisher's name b)group study assigned to and c) whether active or inactive publisher.
That's new. I saw one congregation list baptized and unbaptized publishers. Most JWs read the list and go "who's that person, have you ever heard of that person." Another JW, "Oh, they used to go here, I haven't seen them here except at the Memorial for the last 5 years. I wonder why they put them on the list?"
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RunningMan
Posting the book study list is pretty common.
But something that a lot of people don't know (and in fact, might be only a local thing) is that every month, a listing of each publisher along with their service report is circulated to every Ministerial Servant and Elder. I still have a stack of printouts, showing every name in the cong with their number of hours, mags, RVs, studies, etc.
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Country Girl
I'm with the idea that they will say that "the love of the greater number is cooling off" and then the end will come. They will play on this for a few years. However, from my recollection of over twenty years ago, they said that "The Good News shall be preached throughout the inhabited Earth, and then the end will come." Right? But there are still places, obscure places, that even journalists can't get to, that I'm SURE the JWs can't get to. How can the love of the greater number be cooling off, when a lot of people on the Earth haven't even HEARD of them? This is a small fish with a big imagination, swimming in a pond of bigger fish that love to eat the small fish for lunch.
My prediction is: they will die out and just become just a small sect still preaching their "World Will End Soon" predictions to those who are hard core believers. Amazing that such a rediculous and silly religion has ravaged so many lives because of deceit.
Country Girl
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blondie
It's about 50-50 in this area as to posting the book study list. Some POs don't because there are so many disobedient JWs who don't go where they are assigned. They don't want the other "obedient" ones to know.
That list is given to the book study overseers with the hope that they will note who did not go out or whose hours are dropping and give them special attention...right!
I know of one elder who told his group at the end of the book study that he was ashamed of their numbers, that they were the lowest in the congregation. One older sister burst out in tears and left...that's what Bethel training can do for you.
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jws
Happy Guy wrote:
I just noticed that there does not seem to be a correlation between pioneers and baptisms. At first glance I thought there might even be a negative correlation because of a few months where pioneers went up and baptisms went down as well as the converse of this. Realistically though the some of the changes were too small to consider significant. As well the disproportional month of July where alot of people wait to get baptized at annual conventions. When these factors are considered, It appears more like no correlation at all is the case.
Obviously waiting for conventions spikes baptisms during convention months.
As for pioneers, what is this number actually counting? Total regular pioneers? Aux. Pioneers? Does it count a regular pioneer who didn't put any time in during a month?
Regular pioneers have seasons. When I was in, they had to put in 1,000 hours/year. If they worked their butts off, they could finish this in way less than a year and "take off" for the rest of the service year until September when it starts all over again. IF this monthly figure counts whether a pioneer put in time that month, then I would expect the months of August and counting back to decline.
As for Aux. pioneers, etc. Remember that the push for those is usually around March/April (Memorial time). So, you could have spikes then, combined with the declining baptisms as District Conventions approach and people start to wait for them.
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Happy Guy :)
Thank you for the information jws, your explanation does describe why there is a lack of correlation where these numbers are concerned..
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justhuman
No one knows for sure the real figures of the WT regarding puplishers. Like most of the European countries U.S. also is facing dicrease. Jw's got tired listening to the same old crap and they start to look their lifes .