god, this is depressing sometimes. I wish organized religion never existed.
is there any concrete proof the JWs are wrong? Iam new here.
by Buck 49 Replies latest jw friends
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Big Tex
Howdy Buck and welcome.
I'll let others who have experience with your problem answer, but I will say you've got a tough road to hoe ahead of you. Yes it is possible for Witnesses to marry non-JWs but it is very difficult and becomes even moreso if children become involved.
Good luck.
Chris
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Gill
Hi there!
My first thought of what to say to you was 'RUN!'
But if you're in love that's not so easy.
You must find out everything you can about the JW's before you go any futhur in your relationship.
I was a JW for forty years and wouldn't wish the experience on my worst enemy.
Don't let love blind you to the trap you may fall into here.
Is it possible for you to leave the relationship now, before it's too late.
Why don't you first see what happens and what the reaction is of you sweet heart and her family if you start asking some serious questions.
Why have your rules on the blood issue gradually changed?
What's with the fall of Jerusalem being 586/87 BCE?
What happened, or didn't happen in 1975?
How come Armageddon didn't come before the end of the twentieth century?
The list is endless and if you study up a bit on the sites suggested by others you may be shocked at what you find!
Perhaps I should still suggest 'RUN!' but I can understand why that's not easy.
Good Luck!
Gill
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Poztate
Some Governing Body members are not annointed.
Mulan,
Are you sure about this.The last time I checked all GB members were"annointed"
The presidents of the different companys organized in 2000 do not have to be annointed and I don't believe any are.
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jgnat
Hi, buck. I am a Christian married to a Jehovah's Witness. We got away with it because he did not tell the congregation until the deed was done. They did everything to dissuade my honey from marrying me (quoting "unequally yoked" scriptures and all that), and when that didn't work, they did their best to welcome me in to their congregation. When it became clear I was not easy meat, they have turned alternately warm and cold on me. If I say anything nice about the Witnesses, they are all sweetness and light. If I look like I might say something negative, they either run away, change the subject, or avoid me altogether.
I have seen the study book they use on newcomers, and I find the design deceptively simple. First of all, they attempt to establish the absolute authority of the bible. Starting on page two they start warning you that family and friends are likely to oppose your interest in the "truth". Then they pick selected sections of the bible that agree with their doctrines, to show that they follow the "truth". They remind you again that people are going to oppose your interest in the "truth". Finally, they show how all other religions are hopelessly enmeshed in pagan practices, and cannot be trusted. Then they finish off by showing that only they have the "truth", since so many people oppose them.
I predict that if you mention your visit to this board AT ALL, they are going to panic or get mean, and warn you that what we say cannot be trusted. Ask them if it was OK for Thomas and the Bereans to question, why can't you? Personal investigation of the full truth can't possibly be harmful, can it?
The bible is a compilation of stories, songs, history, philosophies, poetry, and prophecy. It is not written in manual format, so one cannot go to the section marked, "Cults - Identifying Marks" and get the definitive answer. I don't think you can find the concrete proof there, as you have pointed out, it's meaning is subject to interpretation. So what can we lean on?
Matthew 22 NIV The Greatest Commandment 34 Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. 35 One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question:
36 "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" 37 Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' [2] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' [3] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."Ask your witness friends if loving the Lord is enough. Is there anything else required, like, say, field service? If so, why? Jesus said the ENTIRE law was summed up in these few short sentences.
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Gerard
IF she was on her way out, I'd say "go for it" and be prepared to give her support on returning back to the normal society and real life. If not, get ready for a messy divorce: [Qoted from: http://freeminds.org/psych/divorce.htm]
(1) The children are being forced to go to the Kingdom Hall and/or out in the door-to-door work,
(2) The children are taught that mommy/daddy is going to be destroyed at Armageddon for their lack of love for God,
(3) The Witness spouse is emotionally/physically unresponsive to the non-JW mate, even going so far as to say they are "spiritual enemies" (very common),
(4) Both partners are JWs and then one leaves the organization, often because they discover it is a cult. The other views them as an "apostate," unworthy of respect and attention.
For starters, Explore WWW.FREEMINDS.ORG and read subjects such as:
Recovering Your Family after leaving the Watchtower http://freeminds.org/family/family.htm
Kids of Jehovah's Witnesses http://freeminds.org/kids/kids.htm
Psychological and Recovery Issues http://freeminds.org/psych/psych.htm
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Kenneson
Hi Buck. Glad you're here. WELCOME! If birthdays bug you check out this thread at
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kj
First of all, welcome to the forum.
My aunt is a FANATICAL JW, and she married an atheist. They have been married over 20 years and are MISERABLE. They have 3 kids, and that is probably the only reason they remain together- neither is willing to give the other control over the kids. The kids are the most socially dysfunctional people I've ever seen. I'm sorry to be so negative, but if she is at all serious about her faith and you don't share that faith, you've got nothing but trouble ahead. Stick around, you'll learn a lot here. Maybe you'll be able to help her leave the JWs someday.
kj
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ko38
been a jw kid since 6 yrs old and am i proud?NO do i need therapy ? yes.dont do it man just keep lookin. she may love you i know,but if you drag her away it will bug her until she bugs you to death to join her in everlasting stupidity. sorry but its the truth ........no pun intended
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Golf
Greetings. Any concrete proof their right? Guest77