Hey, ko38!! No problem! That's what we're here for - please stick around.
NO ONE WILL SAVE YOU EXCEPT YOURSELF,BE IN FEAR OF YOURSELF
by ko38 32 Replies latest jw friends
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outnfree
ko38,
I haven't gotten to welcome you to the board yet, so please don't go already!!!! I think who responded understood the sudden fear and doubt that assailed you and which surfaced in this post. Get past it and keep reading. We are already past it, I can assure you.
outnfree
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Incense_and_Peppermints
i am very sorry it seems once again ive made the wrong choice in condeming instead of trying to help or be positive.i probobly wont post anymore because the last thing you guys (and gals) need is another newbie with security issues. i sure hope someday things will make sense to me.........ko38
i wouldn't worry too much about what your fellow posters "need". this place has a gazillion moderators to remove people or posts they think are offensive to anybody. besides, you can't spend your life worrying about what other people think.
i detected something in your posts... looked past all the "condemnation" and just saw someone looking for... something. and reaching out...almost as if you wish you could be free like the ones who have escaped. anyway i don't wanna make assumptions about you. just don't go, unless you really want to...
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kitties_and_horses_oh_my!
k038
No words of wisdom, just echoing what everyone else here is saying - there's no point in condemning yourself for having a hard time with this transition. It is painful and long and confusing at times, but the end result is worth it. Please stay around and learn that there are a lot of wonderful people here who truly understand this time in your life. We all need to be here for each other, and I mean it when I say we also need you b/c a) it reminds us of the pain of leaving and keeps us alert for when things in ourselves slip back in and we start to panic (even years after leaving) and think maybe we need to go back and b) one day you will feel stronger, and you will be here to help others who are like you are now. It's all cyclical, give and take and give again, the idea that you don't have the right to need support is something the JWs will feed you. In reality, you don't have to be "perfect" for us b/c we know that who you are, not what you do, already makes you perfect.
Hugs, Kitties
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Brummie
Hi Ko38, I do tend to agree with some of what you wrote, but not everyone leaves the Watchtower and follows the debil. Not everyone does all those "bad" things you mentioned, there are a lot of exjws who continue to lead a life that many JWs would admire, they dont have to wear 2 faces, dont have to wear that plastic kingdom smile and they dont have to pretend to spiritually perfect everyday to please the other jws. Life as an exjw can be most rewarding, life as a JW has no real rewards.
At the end of the day, some exjws will do everything wrong and make the mistakes they were not allowed to make as a JW, others will continue on living a better life than JWs do. Let each find his/her own path
Oh, and please dont leave, your thread gave a lot of us food for thought.
Interesting thread Ko38
Brummie
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Dawn
I'm happy smoking crack, shooting my neighbours, teaching my kids about satan, and spanking the local cats.
LMAO - I needed that laugh!
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Brummie
and spanking the local cats.
Thats just plain wrong!
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obiwan
oy oy oy ! ... Do you think, that we don't know where you are coming from ?
Well said, FB.
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Jez
Ko, sometimes the things I read here almost make me physically sick because I don't want to believe it is true. I don't want to know sometimes. Ignorance is bliss. But I stay because I know in my depths of my soul that I need to learn and acquire knowledge about a religion I am taught to die for. I could not in all honesty to myself, preach about what JW's teach, because it is so life encompassing, without first looking at the religion from BOTH sides.
I can't do it anymore. I feel like God has pulled me OUT and helped me see truth, and yes, it hurts.
The things you mentioned are not doctrinal. Most of us on this board, most of us in the WORLD, hold things like love, honesty, fidelity, etc..(basic humane traits) extremely high. I have come to learn that the ppl on this board are the JW's that hold those things the HIGHEST, they refuse to only preach without practice, therefore they felt compelled to leave. Contrary to what you are 'feed', exJWs are often a shining example of what a Christian should look like. WE are the martyers for our beliefs, not you lot, we are determined to hold bible truths first and foremost even if it means losing our loved ones, we believe in knowledge, not power over others.
Please stay, quietly if you must, but stay and learn. Do you know why? Because now that you have had a taste of 'the truth', as hard as you try, I don't think you will ever get it out of your system now. The questions/doubts that you have will poke you from the inside out and demand to be answered. JW's cannot give you those answers. Only you can.....
Love Jez
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OldSoul
Jez: I have come to learn that the ppl on this board are the JW's that hold those things the HIGHEST, they refuse to only preach without practice, therefore they felt compelled to leave.
Hear! Hear!