by truthseeker 46 Replies latest jw friends
holy crap. That's a lot of people not publishing lol.
Once again, Brooklyn makes it OUR fault if we can't grasp their double talk and fairy tales. If we find it hard to grasp. Give me a freaking break.
No, WTS, we didn't find it hard to grasp. We opened our eyes and realized that lies are always harder to understand than simple truth. Our BS-ometers are off the charts.
Hard to grasp. That happens when people tell multiple stories to cover their tracks.
essie
Jeff writes:
Would the higher number in August be due to publishers who have been irregular or inactive wanting to get a report filed before the end of a service year (they always start in Sept)? This would boost the numbers for the service year if they hit a peak that month - could the Co's and DO's be pushing that month as a 'month to get inactives going' to the elders, so that the yearly numbers look better? Any elders out there with this insight?
Here is an example of how the tallying works:
Jonestown Congregation has 100 individual publishers.
During the month of June 90 publishers report time. The other 10 have time to report but fail to report it.
During the month of July 90 publishers report time. The other 10 have time to report but fail to report it.
During the month of August the congregation secretary gets his butt in gear and asks the no-shows to report their time for the months of June and July, and to also report their time for August. So here is what happens:
During the month of August all 100 publishers report time, plus the other 10 report their time for June and July. WTS directions have the secretary count this as 120 publishers reporting time! The legitimate reason for this manner of tallying is that it is the only way to maintain a meaningful average of WTS publishers. However, the WTS uses this peak figure illegitimately when it gives the impression that the figure of 120 represents the number of individuals reporting! The figure of 120 only represents--and here is the key--the number of individual reports, but not the number of individuals reporting.
The peak figures reported by the WTS are all but meaningless for statistical purposes, or for trying to figure out the total number of publishers! It is common for a congregation's August report to the WTS to have a number of publishers that is 10% higher than the number of real-life publishers in that congregation! The WTS knows this perfectly well.
Marvin Shilmer
Also factor in UNASSIGNED TERRITORY!!!!
Yippeee, I remember the good old days of driving around South Dakota and not talking to anyone almost all day... but we had tons of hours in. It was in the summer, kids were out of school and we took the "vacation" into unassigned territory.
The figure of 120 only represents--and here is the key--the number of individual reports, but not the number of individuals reporting.
Now that is really interesting. I didn't now that.
It would explain a lot.
Big Tex writes:
Now that is really interesting.
Well there is more.
The peak figure reported by the WTS is not the peak month of reporting but rather the total of peak reports of any given month coming from any given branch.
For example, during the recent genocidal times in Rwanda when WTS publishers were migrating from the territory of one branch to the territory of another branch the peak reporting months varied between the various branches.
To illustrate:
If Rwanda had 10,000 individual publishers reporting during the month of January and that happened to be the highest month of reported publishers then the figure of 10,000 would stand as that branch's peak report. Then, during the month of February had 5,000 of these WTS publishers fled to County X and reported as publishers then the Branch in County X would have an increase of 5,000 publishers for that month. Lets say County X ordinarily had 10,000 publishers, but for this one month it reported 15,000 publishers and that month was its peak for the year. At the end of the year the two Branches would report a combined peak publishers of 25,000 publishers when in fact there were only 20,000 individual publishers.
Dave Sinclair confirmed this little bit of WTS statistical trivia to me a few years ago over a nice warm cup of Irish coffee.
Marvin Shilmer
Based on the premise
So they finally admit its only a premise.
Tickled pink - you could be describing my mom - except I think my mom has a couple years on your mom. They could be finalists in the "who's the biggest martyr" contest.
I don't really buy it that the decrease is only 3%. It's probably much bigger. 3% is a nice figure for giving existing believers a big guilt trip, any bigger number than that would just bring the morale down too much and make people start wondering.
They don't need to be honest about this--who checks it to make sure it's correct? They haven't been honest about anything else, so why believe this?
People are more informed than ever.
TS, yes, thanks to the internet........and to sites like this.........I actually hadn't done any research online before I left. I was just sick and tired of the lifestyle and wanted to experience more in life than 5 meetings a week and field service and assemblies/conventions...........the whole thing was literally boring me to death and draining me of life...........I had a therapist say to me that she found it absolutely impossible, after meeting me and getting to know me, to picture me living a witness lifestyle..........I said "ME TOO! Why do you think I'm so depressed and suicidal?".....I was a miserable, wretched creature then...........hard to believe how much I've changed since..... Terri
1.The faithful and discreet slave" regularly exhorts God's people to stay spiritually vigilant and to keep their senses.
2.Do you appreciate these timely reminders?
3.Do you use them in setting priorities in life?
4.Why not ask yourself: "Do I have clear spiritual vision that enables me to see the Son of God ruling in heaven?
5.Do I see him poised to execute divine judgement against Babylon the Great and the rest of Satan's system?"
6.Some now associated with Jehovah's people have allowed their spiritual vision to grow dim.
7.Could it be that they lack patience or endurance, as did some of Jesus' early disciples?
8.Perhaps some have found certain information published by the "faithful and discreet slave" hard to grasp
hmm..let's be vague, demeaning, judgemental, shaming and threatening. that oughta do it...
